Everyone has an opinion whats yours. Hyosung?

[NOMIS]

Remember nakeds might not be as pretty, but they get more street cred from blokes. Chicks look at them and think ugly though.

**Cough** EXCUSE ME!!!!! pfffttt...!!!!!!!

[CookMySock]

..the fact that they may disintergrate at the slightest knock (according to some people),...that worries me ?!?!

What you are seeing, or is not seeing?, is the pack of jerks who pass themselves off to be the moral core of KB, who are in fact a pack of jerks. There is little or nothing wrong with the Hyos for a sport/commuter/learner bike. I have three of them. Just watch the abuse that follows my post and you will see.

There ARE issues, just like there are with any other bike. The issues are well documented (stand switch, CDI, etc) and they are easily and cheaply fixed, even without a warranty.

A problem for me is the fact that I live in Kerikeri and the dealers are all in Auckland. That's a bit of a trek if there is a warranty issue to sort out ?!?! Then this 4,000km servicing,...again, bit of a drive !!

So, KB,...what's your thoughts ? Go for the shiney new bike (with some potential foibles) and have some comeback,...or risk an old bike whose history is questionable ??

You have a couple of options ;

Go for a brand new GT250R and hope like hell you don't have warranty issues - trailer trip to town.

Buy a really really tidy second-hand one that has had its issues resolved. I know where there is such a bike - PM me if you like.

Buy an older one and fix it up.

HTH
Steve

[Dolph]

Thanks for the reply vtec...

...but a 250 motard with some decent road tyres would be a very close second

If you are happy on a cheap boring cost effective reliable learner bike, then a GN250 would be the go.

Remember nakeds might not be as pretty, but they get more street cred from blokes. Chicks look at them and think ugly though.

I had thought about the motard option,...have to do a bit more research on that.

Yes, I suppose there are always the GN250's,...but I can imagine I probably would not enjoy it as much as other bikes (not that I'm a poser,..but, well,...looks are important !)

I'm not too keen on the racing bike posture (although I must admit, I've not tried one out !) I really like the naked bike look and the riding position. My wife will love it whatever I get,...not too bothered about the other birds ! At the minute I like the VTR250, the Bandit 250 and the Hyo GT250. There are others, but these are the stand-outs at the minute.

I think for now I'll get some gear sorted, keep reading the (often very amusing) posts and progress with the license.
Cheers

[Dolph]

Thanks for the info mate,...yes, I see a lot of 'brand bashing' (I notice that no-one even mentions Lifan or Keeway ?!!?)

You have a couple of options ;

Go for a brand new GT250R and hope like hell you don't have warranty issues - trailer trip to town.

Buy a really really tidy second-hand one that has had its issues resolved. I know where there is such a bike - PM me if you like.

Buy an older one and fix it up.

I guess ultimately,...it's up to me !!

I read that the 2007 models fixed a lot of the known issues. I'm wary of buying an earlier model,...in case the issues have not become apparent yet. Plus, I don't know if I'll have the patience/time/tools/knowledge to work on an old one !!

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!

[Gummie]

i was asking everyones opinion on these bikes and i think i got it.

like me you are right, its your desision.
Research, its always good. opinions are good too.
but it is going to be your bike, buy it love it ride it

[CookMySock]

Thanks for the info mate,...yes, I see a lot of 'brand bashing' (I notice that no-one even mentions Lifan or Keeway ?!!?)

haha, fuck no! That would be instant death on KB.

I'm wary of buying an earlier model,...in case the issues have not become apparent yet. Plus, I don't know if I'll have the patience/time/tools/knowledge to work on an old one !!

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!

Nah the "older" ones aren't that old - unlikely you will have anything to fix on it, unless you are really rough on it.

Theres one down the road from me, lady owner, never ridden by a teenager, never been over 120km/hr, mint tidy, etc. She wants top dollar, but its worth it. 20,000km's on it - all issues fully resolved - solid bike. Yes so the advantage is you get a solid bike. Even the new ones aren't that solid. Mind you, one of our new ones we haven't put a spanner on in 6,000km's and counting. Occasionally you will find a 2nd hand one under 1,000k's for 6k'ish.

Ride one if you can too, they are great fun and feel awesome.

Steve

[racefactory]

Hyosung- well... when i see that name i think of 3 things:

heavy
air cooled
slow

I've know they often have faulty rear master cylinders and bad forks too.

I guess for the many newbie folk who are always willing to pay for the idea of a warranty and 'new' it's ok but other than that i can't imagine many people would buy it.

It certainly is not the most pretty machine and it doesn't have the looks to compete with the early 90's machines... give me a ZXR/CBR/RGV/TZR/NC30 ANYDAY in the looks department...

BUT... at the end of the day it is a bike and therefore i'd love to ride it! Good luck to those with them...

[NOMIS]

Thanks for the reply vtec...



the minute I like the VTR250, the Bandit 250 and the Hyo GT250. There are others, but these are the stand-outs at the minute.

Cheers

Stick with the first 2. and seriously have you looked at a hornet???

Both VTR and Bandit sound good with a decent pipe

[racefactory]

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!

Why do some people shy away like this? 'new'? The 'older' bikes will go well past 100 000k and are better built machines and parts are never hard to come by. Plus those 'older' bikes have the looks to beat the bikes of today in many peoples opinions. In many ways they are way more up to date than the hyosung. Personally I'd way rather buy a 1991 ZXR250 CBR for 4 grand than a GT250 for $5700. They just don't make them like they used to in the 250 class... and no i am not some old guy!!

...plus they are waaay quicker.

So apart from the 'new and warranty' factor... they are an advantage in every percievable way I think?

[CB ARGH]

I friend of mine rides one of the Hyosung GTR250R's, he says that it is an excellent bike, the best part is the mileage that you get out of a tank. I have never rode one so I'm just choosing a side by checking out all the reviews online.

What made me steer away from the Hyosung is the drop in value over a few years or over 15-20,000 km's (depreciation I think it's called).

Apart from that, I cannot see what is wrong with it. They look like very nice bikes, let's just hope that the power-to-weight ratio doesn't worry you.

[racefactory]

the best part is the mileage that you get out of a tank. I have never rode one so I'm just choosing a side by checking out all the reviews online.

What he didn't tell you is that it has an absolutely ginormous tank so mileage is actually nothing special..

[CookMySock]

What he didn't tell you is that it has an absolutely ginormous tank so mileage is actually nothing special..

Not so! The actual fuel efficiency of the GT250R is outstanding. 400km on 15-16 litres - do the math! Even higher (touching 500km) if you are just riding quietly around town.

But yes, having a large tank is great for touring - 400km range at open-road speeds!

Yes, the inline 4 250's sound really cool, and they have more power, and they will do 180 clicks where the GT250R will only do 150 ish. (flat ground)

All that really needs resolving on the GT250R is suspension and tyres - same as any other bike, after that its just bling. (change the crap headlight bulbs too - fit quartz halogen)

And as for them being a total lemon with everything falling off of it - theres one bloke on KB posting this week about returning his (widely-respected brand name, purchased brand new, non-hyosung) bike after 20,000+kms coz its a total piece of crap, so its not just hyo's that have a bad one occasionally.

Steve

[vtec]

Firstly, although the CBR250RR is a decent sports/race bike, its riding position is brilliant. It's small so you're not stretched out like the modern 600's. I'd hazard a guess to say it's more comfortable than the Hyos. I've couriered on it for 9 hours a day before. There was also the odd guy on Hyosungs couriering aswell.

Also the mileage on the CBR250RR's is about 220-240km with me riding it :P Or just shy of 20km/l. But the Hyo's fuel mileage look very respectable. That's the advantage of running a slow bike though.

Get a UZ125 and they will do 40km/l. And they are heaps of fun too. My ex girlfriend bought one after telling me that my suggestion was shit when we were together.

[Dolph]

Thanks lads.

I had a quick look at a brand new Hyo today. Looked quite nice in my opinion, but did feel a bit plastic in some respects. However, I need more models to compare them too before making a real judgement. At the end of the day "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I'm leaning towards the Bandits at the minute and no, I've not checked out any Hornets yet. If I can get some gear for the $5-600 mark and a bike for $3-3,500 I'll be chuffed.

I'll just keep 'researching' for now. But all this info is good stuff cheers.

[rphenix]

Hyosung- well... when i see that name i think of 3 things:

heavy
air cooled
slow

I've know they often have faulty rear master cylinders and bad forks too.

I guess for the many newbie folk who are always willing to pay for the idea of a warranty and 'new' it's ok but other than that i can't imagine many people would buy it.

It certainly is not the most pretty machine and it doesn't have the looks to compete with the early 90's machines... give me a ZXR/CBR/RGV/TZR/NC30 ANYDAY in the looks department...

BUT... at the end of the day it is a bike and therefore i'd love to ride it! Good luck to those with them...

Have to disagree. I think the Hyosung's look better, certainly compared to the 80's Kawa 250's look. I likem all the GT, GTR, GV.

And what is with everyone going on about how slow hyo's are we seem to go over this all the time on KB. If you want a fast 250 don't even consider a 4 stroker.

Regarding reliability well they have a warranty compared to the same price CBR thats 15 years old. The parts are cheap and I haven't heard of anything major dying on a Hyo yet. Replacing a $60 master cylinder and some break fluid is hardly a big deal neither is cutting a wire on the CDI.

The USD forks I've heard a few comments, the forks are fine on our GT, and the GV suspension is doing okay 18 months after we got the bike(s) so no problems here and I'm a fat bastard so if anyone was going to damage the suspension it would be me.

The only negative gripe of mine is some of the small parts could have better finishing touches e.g. the paint job on the GV mirrors could be better.