Are you going to pay for the new Toll Road?

[Forest]

No, it's entirely by gantries over the road with cameras/scanners to read numberplates. You can then pay online (within 3 days or summat), or at a service station before/after the toll road (the BP on the left heading north before you get there, and another on the northern side).
They have the same things overseas (like around Seeedneeee), which are the same except they also have an "e-pass" tag in your vehicle, and some have tollbooths for cash payment.

I don't know about Sydney, but motorbikes travel for free on Melbourne toll roads.

[Waxxa]

I will absolutely refuse to pay for any toll roads imposed in this country. Isn't it what our fuel taxes are for? (and another 10c tax will go on fuel in the Auckland region to pay for these projects very soon by the way). And the saving of transport costs for the truckies alone warrants no tolls (this, over time pays for the road).

[TOTO]

Not gonna use it. sh16 is what i'll be using in public hollidays, wether on a bike or not.

[vifferman]

Hmmmm, I used to take a back road to visit my folks in Tauranga. When they opened the new toll road they dropped the speed limit on my regular route and threw in a couple of roundabouts for good measure.

We went over the Tauranga toll road again in the weekend (made the vifferbabe all pissy about paying $1, but the Tom Tom Chick told us to go that way - said it was quicker). Anyway, why the foooook is it only 80km/h along there? [insert :spudwhat: emoticodwebicon here] There's almost zero traffic, the wide is wide'n'straightish (albeit a bit bumpy). If you're paying for it, it should have NO speed limit. It's almost/nearly/more or less a private road/racetrack.

[raftn]

Will try it once, after that........Sh16.

[nosebleed]

Hmmmm, I used to take a back road to visit my folks in Tauranga. When they opened the new toll road they dropped the speed limit on my regular route and threw in a couple of roundabouts for good measure.

I'd be surprised if the existing route up your way becomes a car-less biker haven

Point taken.
It only cuts out the area from Orewa to Puhoi (at the moment) anyway, so I'm under no illusion that it'll become the new '16'.

However the part that it will bypass is a notorious summertime bottleneck (see this Labour Day when a truck broke down heading out of Waiwera) so this'll mean that 'most' cars will continue up the motorway, while those of us looking at a Northeastern route (for whatever reason) can enjoy a few kays of twisties till we rejoin the traffic further up.

[ManDownUnder]

No.

My prediction - the road opens, lots use it - get to like it and it eases traffic enough on the alternative route to make it really easy for bikes to filter up and along.

If it cuts more than 30kms off the distance travelled I might be interested (that's about my payback point on $2 fuel). Tempting to get clever and flip up plates etc but getting stung for that would pay for a hell of a lot of $2 tolls.

[Finn]

We should not stop here either. Roads should be privatised. In certain parts of southern France, the roads (mainly motorways) were privatised. As soon as the new roads were built and tolls installed, the owners gave the transport authority a months notice to remove the speed cameras from private property. Nice.

[vifferman]

It was interesting traveling through Yurp in August/September. Many of the roads we went on were toll roads, so several times a day we had to stop and pay a toll. Some of the towns/cities also had some kind of tourist tax levied on buses, which was kind of mental given the income tourism in and of itself probably provided.

That reminds me of a surreal moment on the tour. We stopped at a toll booth (automated), behind this old duck. First she stopped in the wrong place, so she couldn't reach the machine.
Then she moved the car - still couldn't reach the machine, but now also couldn't open her door when she decided to get out.
She shifted it again, and tried talking to the machine (well - it was talking to her!).
She got no satisfaction, so she got out to remonstrate with it.
(By now, I suggested the bus driver nudge her forward and out of the way).
Eventually the Euro dropped (heh) and she worked out the machine was hungry, so she got back in her car, got some money (spilling her handbag's contents in the footwell in the process), and fed the machine.
It wasn't enough, so she went back for some more.
EVENTUALLY... the attendant came over to see WTF was going on, and pressed the button to just let her through.
We were all expecting that after this display of decreptitude and snail-like action, she would creep off in her shitmobile at 30km/h. To our surprise, she planted her foot, and was out of there like a scalded cat.
It was some of the best entertainment on the trip.

[slimjim]

so what about...way out of towners (shock.. us folkthat are bombay bay down)that have only a RD address..whom may have taken that route to see what all the taxes have paided for...how they gona send us a toll ticket.?

[johannvr]

so what about...way out of towners (shock.. us folkthat are bombay bay down)that have only a RD address..whom may have taken that route to see what all the taxes have paided for...how they gona send us a toll ticket.?

Shite Mate - I'm on a RD address here & the geezer that operates Rural deliveries here knows more about what goes on in our lives (and the neighbours', and their neighbours' ) than we do, I'm sure ... so they'll find us

PO Box in the city somewhere would be anonymous

[Bonez]

It'll be worth a pootle to see what all the fuss is about.
The habour bridge had tolls till the clipons where paid for. No dought the same will apply to this.

Penty of areas in NZ with less traffic and good roads to ride on.

[NOMIS]

So the Northern Gateway (Orewa to Puhoi) is getting closer to completition. Have been scanning the NZTA (LTNZ) website and see this:

Info on the Tollroad

Supposedly it looks like Motorcycles 'may have to pay' $2 (it's not confirmed yet), the same price as a car. This is all collected via photographing your plate and linking it to a pre-paid account.

Would you be prepare to pay the price?



Interesting Thought: Wonder if you could get away with a flip-up plate?

No I wouldnt the twistys at waiwera will be great with out traffic ;-)

cant wait, But ill pay to go through the tunnel at 16000rpm with the silencers out.

:-)

[NZsarge]

No, it's entirely by gantries over the road with cameras/scanners to read numberplates. You can then pay online (within 3 days or summat), or at a service station before/after the toll road (the BP on the left heading north before you get there, and another on the northern side).
They have the same things overseas (like around Seeedneeee), which are the same except they also have an "e-pass" tag in your vehicle, and some have tollbooths for cash payment.

Yeah my brother in Oz uses e-Tag on his way into Brisbane during the week, in that toll booth theres also a couple of lanes in either direction that you use if paying in cash.

[Forest]

so what about...way out of towners (shock.. us folkthat are bombay bay down)that have only a RD address..whom may have taken that route to see what all the taxes have paided for...how they gona send us a toll ticket.?

In Melbourne the overhead gantries record your license plate as you progress through the network.

If you don't have an electronic pass, you have to ring a free call number within 72 hours of travel and purchase a day-pass (I pay by credit card, but I'm sure there are other payment options).

If you don't pay with 72 hours, a penalty fine is posted to the registered address of the motor vehicle (which they get from the plate number).