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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshear View Post
    I know I may sound like a twat here, but I've had the perfect idea for a plate hider for some time now.
    Think plate-sized calculator-type LCD.
    Add a switch.
    You have see through (May appear to be a plate protector to 99% of people, flick a switch in that 'show room' to turn it black.

    Feedback?
    A. Works
    B. Wont works.
    I don't know that the plate has bugger all to do with it initially. In WA cars have a barcode on the rear side window(s) I think. I guess if you don't have the barcode the forces of law and order come after you (carrying guns).

    They probably have real good incentives to get you to pay...

    Just might txt WA to check...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Why should it be any different in this case? Your Burgman must weigh more than the average bike???
    It weighs a hell of a lot less than the average car though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    $360 million to build, the term double dipping is a waste of a comment really.
    What does the $360 million have to do with it? My point is that they charge a 'road tax' when you buy petrol, they throw a big chunk into the consolidated fund, then they ask motorists for more money to help pay for a bit of road.

    If all the 'road tax' collected on petrol was spent on roads and they needed more for this road then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshear View Post
    I know I may sound like a twat here, but I've had the perfect idea for a plate hider for some time now.
    Think plate-sized calculator-type LCD.
    Add a switch.
    You have see through (May appear to be a plate protector to 99% of people, flick a switch in that 'show room' to turn it black.

    Feedback?
    A. Works
    B. Wont works.
    Yeah, great minds and all that. Can you find one that would work?
    It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    What does the $360 million have to do with it? My point is that they charge a 'road tax' when you buy petrol, they throw a big chunk into the consolidated fund, then they ask motorists for more money to help pay for a bit of road.

    If all the 'road tax' collected on petrol was spent on roads and they needed more for this road then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
    I pay 39% tax. Then I pay GST. Then I pay rates for the shore. And then Auckland city rates. And then I pay 70% tax on petrol. And I pay a higher ACC levy for riding a bike (which fucks me off since it's mostly cages that hurt us). And then road tolls. With what I have left over, I pay bills and insurance... I haven't dole bludged. I paid my own way through uni. I get told at least once a week how I'm a middle class white guy and life is too easy for me...

    I've spent the last couple of weeks in Australia, it was really fucking hard to get on the bus to come home. We will end up there in the next 2-3 years (I love my job, and Ms MadBikeBoy is doing her PhD, so two more years and then we're off). Either Aus, or if I can swing it, San Fran (Marin County rocks).
    It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.

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    Id have to give it a go, maybee change down a gear for the tunnel, but the old road is at least scenic and has some nice corners.

    $2 is a bit steep though, considering it will proberbly need to be ripped up and resealed in six months time

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    My olds are moving to Matakana, so i will be using the new road if i'm in a hurry to visit, or the current if i have time on my hands.

    I also figured the speed limit would be reduced or something similar to deter speedsters on the current road once the new road opens.

    If on my bike i try to avoid the albany to orewa motorway at the moment as i find it dead boring (along with the huntly freeway), would rather travel east coast road or dairy flat ways. But if travelling in the cage, the motorway is first choice to reduce the trip lenght/time

    As for the $2 fee, if it remains after the tunnels are paid for, perhaps they could then reduce the rate on motorcycle tolls in fairness for road maintenance
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    All vehicles should pay the same amount.

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    wont be using it. Iv already paid for it.

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    [QUOTE=madbikeboy;1788827]I pay 39% tax. Then I pay GST. Then I pay rates for the shore. And then Auckland city rates. And then I pay 70% tax on petrol. And I pay a higher ACC levy for riding a bike (which fucks me off since it's mostly cages that hurt us). And then road tolls. With what I have left over, I pay bills and insurance...

    When you really look at it there isnt many cents left out of every dollar earnt is there. dont forget to pay your tolls, wasnt enough left out of the above for new roads.

    Another thing that doesnt seem to be getting mentioned is that this section of motorway was scheduled to be completed years ago as the next stage from the orewa section but the contractors blew the budget on the first bit, now we have to pay again to finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyer View Post
    All vehicles should pay the same amount.
    That's a very convincing argument you make there, makes it very hard to disagree. (and yet I'll manage it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arj127 View Post
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    your avatar is awesome.

    I can't comment, but if I travel up that way, I'd rather take the scenic road

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    What kinda motorcyclist rides on the highway??.....................*well apart from the tassle clad wannabee with handbag over the bars*

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixPackBack View Post
    What kinda motorcyclist rides on the highway??.....................*well apart from the tassle clad wannabee with handbag over the bars*
    HEY!!! The only thing over my bars is my nose when im tapped out at 110kph.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    It'll be worth a pootle to see what all the fuss is about.
    The habour bridge had tolls till the clipons where paid for. No dought the same will apply to this.
    No it wont. The Harbour bridge was state funded. Road tolls are part of a privitisation deal. Once the road has paid it's way it's all profit. The toll will not come off. Maintance will be paid for by increasing the toll. The bottom line on this is that Kiwis will be required to pay too travel on roads in their own country. Most likely to overseas companies.

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