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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    The tip in is smooth and even. No sudden drop in and not progressively harder the further it leans.
    That's the baby, that's exactly what I want and exactly what I don't have, well understood mate, I wasn't sure that I articulated the issue well enough.

    I'm upright then it almost falls to ( a certain angle) then you have to work it harder as you go down My baby and I like to be smooth, we both get a bit out of shape with rapid changes from standing up to sitting down.

    I'm chuffed with that answer, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by random View Post
    180s on a 6" rim is bad juju, don't do that again, you're a naughty man.

    Yeah, I bought it shod that way, worst still the WOF man changed it to another of the same size before I realised it wasn't the right size. pfft

    For the GSX1400, I recommend the Pilot Power 2CT 190/50 rear. Try a set today!
    definitely! well not Today but soon as, cheers.
    Oh bugger

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma51 View Post
    as long as its a bridgestone you will have awesome grip!
    LOL.
    Y'reckon?
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Do they deterioate with age?
    ahahha His certainly don't deteriorate from riding, well, other than being written off...?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    That's the baby, that's exactly what I want and exactly what I don't have, well understood mate, I wasn't sure that I articulated the issue well enough.

    I'm upright then it almost falls to ( a certain angle) then you have to work it harder as you go down My baby and I like to be smooth, we both get a bit out of shape with rapid changes from standing up to sitting down.

    I'm chuffed with that answer, thanks.
    Some people like the rapid drop in/progressively harder as it leans thing. They say it helps them feel when the edge of the tyre is coming into play. Personally, I'd rather have the same amount of effort at any lean angle
    Remember, there is 5mm each side of upright width difference from 180 to 190, which is fuck all...it is the shape of the bearing surface that is more important as to how it behaves.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    well...i went for a ride(in the bloody rain),returned home, softened up the rear shock a tad more, and went out again.

    definitely feeling better than it was.quite noticeably .and the bumps are a lot nicer feel then before .i'm picking i wont be suffering so much fatigue on the longer rides

    it does tend to drop in quick to a point,then become progressively harder the more angle that's required,but i haven't had any real time on it yet,and the way the weather is going,i don't think i'll be in too much of a rush either =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by naphazoline View Post
    i haven't had any real time on it yet,and the way the weather is going,i don't think i'll be in too much of a rush either =(
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    how is the wear pattern on the tyres??

    When i first got the aprilia it had reasonable tread (diablos) but didnt feel very stable on some corners, rear tyre was ever so slightly squared and front triangle a bit but pretty minor, put new rubber on it (same brand / size etc) and holy shit it was a new bike!!! all of a sudden felt planted and confidence inspiring through the corners

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 wheel madness View Post
    how is the wear pattern on the tyres??

    When i first got the aprilia it had reasonable tread (diablos) but didnt feel very stable on some corners, rear tyre was ever so slightly squared and front triangle a bit but pretty minor, put new rubber on it (same brand / size etc) and holy shit it was a new bike!!! all of a sudden felt planted and confidence inspiring through the corners
    yeah good point.the rear is starting to square off quite a bit,and the front has barely any "triangling" at all.the tyres aren't quite ready to chuck away yet,so for now i'll get things as close as i can with the set up.but at the rate i clock up the miles,it wont be too long before i get a new rear.

    on the up side,the weather gods must have liked me after all.it cleared up around 11:30am,so i went on a reasonable ride.(about 200+kms)
    i found the front end adjustments have made a pleasant difference ,but the rear was still quite hard in compression.
    i've backed off the comp' a little,and let a couple of psi off the rear tyre.
    i'm picking that this should be closer to the result i'm looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naphazoline View Post
    i found the front end adjustments have made a pleasant difference ,but the rear was still quite hard in compression.
    i've backed off the comp' a little,and let a couple of psi off the rear tyre.
    i'm picking that this should be closer to the result i'm looking for.
    Now that you are getting deeper into adjustments... remember, the front and rear of the bike have to work in harmony. Having one right, and the other wrong, it won't work. You can't have one stiff and one soft either.

    Also, probably aim to keep your pressures near the recommended for the bike.

    Having stiff suspension and then dropping the tyre pressure to "fix" it will mean that the suspension won't be doing its job, and the tyres will have extra work to do, resulting in excessive wear.

    Its a delicate balancing job that can some people weeks to get it just to their liking. Me... I fix major problems, like sticky forks, get the shop to set it up for a weight a bit less than mine, then ride the bastard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Now that you are getting deeper into adjustments... remember, the front and rear of the bike have to work in harmony. Having one right, and the other wrong, it won't work. You can't have one stiff and one soft either.
    i understand that and that's my aim.to even out the front and back.
    after a few rides,and a couple of adjustments,i found the rear to be too hard for the front,so i made the changes mentioned in the end of my last post,which i'm hoping to try out today

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    When adjusting the suspension to work together....
    Best to have 2 people, one straddles the bike, but standing, and hold up with thighs, then press down hard and sharp on the top of the tank just in front of their waist. The other person must have a quick eye and just observes what both ends of the bike do. It should go down an equal amount back and front, at the same rate and rebound exactly the same. A tendency for one end to move differently should be obvious, in which case adjust as appropriate.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    When adjusting the suspension to work together....
    Best to have 2 people, one straddles the bike, but standing, and hold up with thighs, then press down hard and sharp on the top of the tank just in front of their waist. The other person must have a quick eye and just observes what both ends of the bike do. It should go down an equal amount back and front, at the same rate and rebound exactly the same. A tendency for one end to move differently should be obvious, in which case adjust as appropriate.

    done/doing that.ehich has lead me to where i'm at now.i just got to wait for some

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    Quote Originally Posted by naphazoline View Post
    done/doing that.ehich has lead me to where i'm at now.i just got to wait for some
    Yes I found the rear of my blade hard to get the suspension right. Have got it professionally set by it is still a little stiff. But mind you I weigh as light as a feather so I think an ohlins will be my only hope in correcting the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klyong82 View Post
    Yes I found the rear of my blade hard to get the suspension right. Have got it professionally set by it is still a little stiff. But mind you I weigh as light as a feather so I think an ohlins will be my only hope in correcting the problem.
    i weigh heaps and it still feels a little stiff in the rear.

    been out for another scoot today after making the adjustments mentioned earlier,and it's better than ever,but still on the hard side in the rear.

    guess i'll just have to live with it for now,as there's no way i could warrant forking out(no pun intended) for ohlins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naphazoline View Post
    guess i'll just have to live with it for now,as there's no way i could warrant forking out(no pun intended) for ohlins.
    You mean the shock would be too much for your wallet?
    You need to find out what part is creating the stiffness. Too heavy a spring for your weight? Too much preload wound on? Does your shock have adjustment for compression and rebound damping...one or both is up too much?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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