So we got a new Government, and a new Leader

[Indiana_Jones]

I'm mainly glad the greens are not in a position to push through their bullshit ideals and bills on to the NZ public.

-Indy

[SARGE]

i voted for Bill & Ben

[AllanB]

Hey that means Helens now free to do a spread in FHM - should be out for Christmas.

[SARGE]

I'm mainly glad the greens are not in a position to push through their bullshit ideals and bills on to the NZ public.

-Indy

A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves
-Edward R. Murrow

[scumdog]

. The problems associated with political correctness and reverse racism aren't going anywhere, irrespective of who's in government.

Now ain't THAT the truth!!

Nobody seems to have the balls to undo all the PC and 'reverse racism' that has ben beaten into us for the last decade or so.

In a small doses and a little in total it was palatable, Labour just didn't know when to stop...

[carver]

meh.. mark my words commie..

somewhere between Jan 20 an mid-July.. someone will try something on US soil to see what he's made of..

lets hope hes got the balls to react in a non-Clinton way

it will be the mormon few doing wheelies past his limo

[paturoa]

..... and once again increase the gap between lower class NZers and middle-upper income bracket NZers.

I haven't got the numbers at my finger tips but I rekon that the gap has increased with increased social spending. What incentive is there with the rebate with Working for Families?

[paturoa]

When tax went to 39% my accountant stated his role changed overnight from a business advisor to a tax advisor

We need incentives to grow. The chief thief has overtaxed the productive parts of our economy. The balance wasn't right.

[Skyryder]

Please elaborate. What potentially profitable public assets is it that they want to sell?

Oh, and please do remember that Labour have sold off far more assets than National ever have in the past.

Well there must be some profit in ACC or else there would not be any buyers interested in the purchase and we know that there are Australian Insurance companies who would like nothing better than to get there ‘snout in the public trough and suck it dry at our expense.

The Nats also want to flog off the schools so someone must think there is profit in that too. Competition and choice is what the free marketers plug and plug. Problem with this is that it also compounds and increases the bureaucracy. This is one of the fundamental problem with our health system. So many Health Boards and bureairacrats doubling in repetitive areas up and doing the same job in different parts of the country. No wonder there has been an increase in public spending.

Both Key and Hide (there’s a joke in there somewhere) have blamed Labour for this. That is really a no brainer since Labour were the Govt. but it's the very policies that these two parties espouse which is the prime cause. Difference: Labour believed they should be responsible where both the Nats and ACT believe it’s not their responsibility and flick this off to the private sector. Personal responsibility Yea Right. No wonder they want to sell, it's the only way they know how to reduce public spending, but the bottom, line on this is that they never say that their policies will reduce 'your' spending for these services. Nor are they accountable when the service costs rise. THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON WHY DOUGLAS AND THE FREEMARKETEERS PUSH THIS IDEOLOGY. Those that make the decisions are not responsible for the subsequent rises in costs that inevitably follow privatization. And these same fuckwits have the temerity to parody on about personal responsibility. Never hear about CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY. Just watch the changes to the RMA and watch the environment get rooted.

YA BEEN FUCKED NEW ZEALAND. Some of us knew of this before the election.

Wonder how long it will take for the rest of NZ to figure it out.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Now ain't THAT the truth!!

Nobody seems to have the balls to undo all the PC and 'reverse racism' that has ben beaten into us for the last decade or so.

In a small doses and a little in total it was palatable, Labour just didn't know when to stop...

Actually they did.......................and it gave rise to the Maori Party.

One of the lesser known points of ACT's 20 point plan is to revisit the Seabed and Forshore legislation.


Skyryder

[doc]

tha ugly frikin liar of a bitch .

a lying po-faced bitch.

a magalomaniac lying two faced (and ugly to boot) bitch.

ain't THAT the truth!!

Didn't reach your "Quota" huh

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Didn't reach your "Quota" huh

Ahhhh... 1 of the party conversation killers... Politics, and whats the other religion...

[Forest]

Well there must be some profit in ACC or else there would not be any buyers interested in the purchase and we know that there are Australian Insurance companies who would like nothing better than to get there ‘snout in the public trough and suck it dry at our expense.

The Nats also want to flog off the schools so someone must think there is profit in that too. Competition and choice is what the free marketers plug and plug. Problem with this is that it also compounds and increases the bureaucracy. This is one of the fundamental problem with our health system. So many Health Boards and bureairacrats doubling in repetitive areas up and doing the same job in different parts of the country. No wonder there has been an increase in public spending.

Are you on drugs?

Competition and choice reduces the size of the bureaucracy. Business managers don't allow the wastage and loss that takes place under state management.

Just look at the NZ health system. Labour increased health spending from 8 to 12 billion and there have been no corresponding improvements in health outcomes for NZ citizens.

Where did all the extra health spending go? Mostly into paying the salaries of the increased management bureaucracy that was appointed under Labour governance.

Both Key and Hide (there’s a joke in there somewhere) have blamed Labour for this. That is really a no brainer since Labour were the Govt. but it's the very policies that these two parties espouse which is the prime cause. Difference: Labour believed they should be responsible where both the Nats and ACT believe it’s not their responsibility and flick this off to the private sector. Personal responsibility Yea Right. No wonder they want to sell, it's the only way they know how to reduce public spending, but the bottom, line on this is that they never say that their policies will reduce 'your' spending for these services. Nor are they accountable when the service costs rise. THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON WHY DOUGLAS AND THE FREEMARKETEERS PUSH THIS IDEOLOGY. Those that make the decisions are not responsible for the subsequent rises in costs that inevitably follow privatization. And these same fuckwits have the temerity to parody on about personal responsibility. Never hear about CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY. Just watch the changes to the RMA and watch the environment get rooted.

Privatisation does not raise costs. It creates incentives for companies to increase efficiency and improve service.

I take it from your arguments that you're fairly young. Which means that you probably aren't aware of just how diabolical it was to get a telephone line installed, and just how expensive telephone calls were, when the entire NZ telephone system was under state control.

You might also have forgotten just how difficult it was to get a WOF vehicle inspection when all of the testing stations were under state control.

Or how you applied for a home mortgage and had to wait for 12 months until a government bureaucrat approved it. Since the number of mortgages allowed in the country was under state control.

When the railways were controlled by the state, the government prohibited trucks from carrying goods more than 100 miles. Which made transporting freight across NZ expensive and inefficient.

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[doc]

Ahhhh... 1 of the party conversation killers... Politics, and whats the other religion...

Well Destiny Church must have some pretty boring parties.

Seriously, I just wanted a party that would scrap the Kyoto crap, this emission trading bs, is going to haunt us long after this perceived recession comes and goes.

[doc]

Are you on drugs?
the railways were controlled by the state, the government prohibited trucks from carrying goods more than 100 miles. Which made transporting freight across NZ expensive and inefficient.

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Do you see the pattern that's emerging?

Fark those were the day's. Less trucks better roads for bikes, so heaps of gas, so it was cheaper.