Originally Posted by dipshit
Not forgeting that there are too many aussies in aussie
Cyborg Biker
Not forgeting that there are too many aussies in aussie
Come warm yourself by the fire
i thought i would come back and lurk for a while as i had not been on KB for quite some time.
Australia is NZ in different pants. I think that figure of the average wage is over inflated by about 1-200 bucks/week.
Tax is good here, with no NASTY TAX for having a second job if you want/need one.
Lazy is a definition here, but not all follow it.
Public transport is poorly maintained, but installed and frequent - unlike NZ.
Some stuff is cheaper, otherstuff more expensive. Cars and Bikes have levels of expense and while you can get something good in NZ for less than NZ$2000, you are looking for well over AU$3000 over here for most.
New vehicles are cheap however so it levels out.
Australia is still very back country when it comes to shopping - f,all is online based (i miss trademe/pricespy), and most shops do not open for long hours (banks are the worst with 10-4, mon-fri).
Its all plusses and minuses really.
The one thing i don't like is all the monkey cackle that happens when they talk over here.
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However there are a bunch of taxes in Australia that we don't have in NZ.
1. Stamp duty on vehicle title transfers.
2. Stamp duty on house and land title transfers.
3. Capital gains tax on shares
4. Capital gains tax on home equity
5. Import duties on imported cars
6. Luxury vehicle taxes on cars above $57,000 AUD
Hardcore Biker
Those taxes vary acoording to the State you live in as well. The reason shops don't open on weekends in because they can't afford to!! Unions are very over strong here and weekend pay rates are time and 1/4 for Saturdays and time and 1/2 for Sundays. Think about a place that has 20 casual staff on $19.60/hr weekday rates working on Sundays.
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Damn, time and a half on weekends would be nice! I always work weekends. Anyway the median household income is a better measure to use I think. Check this out: link.
Doesn't seem that much different ... but it's Wikipedia and I don't really know.
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A bloody lot of beer tho Mate
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There was a program the other day (20/20?) - and they were commenting that 30k Kiwi's move to Oz each year - but another 15k Ozzies move to NZ as well - they interviewed some of them.
I think with the Kiwi's thinking the grass is always greener on the other side - often forgetting just how good we have it here.
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fuck - I wouldn't cross the kitchen for a XXXX
White is the new black
Yep, it is an incentive alright. I'm told (by an Aussie living here) that the grant is $21,000 if you build a new home because they are trying to encourage construction.
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When I see programmes like this, I always wonder how much of it is propaganda to dissuade NZers from leaving?
The programme might have showed a small group of Australians saying how safe it is here, and how we have water but they weren't convincing in the least.
One hell of a ride.
Neither would a Victorian or a Newsouthwelshmen.
I've lived a long time and done OK in both kultchas.
Personal success on either side of the Tasman depends on the individual and their attitude and aptitude.
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So, radically different then...
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
One hell of a ride.
Staying with cousins.
Rasta Ratskins
This should help you understand the tax system...
Economics - Pub Economics by David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to 100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest of the lot) would pay $59.
So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the pub every day and they seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers, he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20. Drinks for you ten are now just $80".
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we all pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the pub owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:-
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'
'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.
It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'
'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money amongst themselves for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works.
The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.
In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
For those who understand this, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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swings and roundabouts.
I actually took a small pay drop to come over, but as it works out i get more in hand due to tax rates.
The stamp duty is an interesting one, one side of me says MAN THAT SUCKS and the otherside of me doesn't care cos it keeps the prices stable.
At the end of the day you do this kinda shit for experience.
I love NZ, and when i'm rich enough i plan to retire and live off the system there. lol
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