Learner Ride - Sunday 30th November

**motorbyclist** · 19th November 2008, 19:51

*big post later tonight with map of route*

**klyong82** · 19th November 2008, 19:52

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

And 98 octane.

I think that BP sells avgas too.....as in aviation fuel .....moar rocket power for the V4's

**Squiggles** · 19th November 2008, 20:51

Originally Posted by motorbyclist

or we let the idiots go up ahead and leave those who want to stay with/help the learners do so

Or no idiots show up as per post 129 If people wish to do the 'learners ride' they should attend, if they cant handle it being a 'learners ride' i'd suggest they find/make another

**Dragon** · 19th November 2008, 21:11

so it's this sunday ok hopefully getting my bike saturday so if i'm there I'm there if not then maybe next time.

**ital916** · 19th November 2008, 21:45

Originally Posted by motorbyclist

yes and no

the problem is people are generally useless

as such, shell westgate has become a common meeting place purely because it is hard to miss - yet people still manage to fail it

however, in light of recent fuel mileage figures on the riffer, there will be a stop there for 98 octane

i would say to fill up before arrival, but last time i said that we had to wait 20 minutes for one guy to go fill up, and stopped three times for gas before leaving auckland anyway

SO, we stop by shell to collect those who don't want to waste time/petrol going to uni, then head to BP kumeu. there we gas up. there are no other gas stops on the route as we are not detouring via helensville. if we miss shell, we will have the latecomers playing one difficult game of catch-up, and make it more difficult for the shell people to arrive on time

at BP kumeu I will give the main briefing (mainly addressed at the learners) before we officially set off from there, rather than giving the thing twice. chain checks etc will be at uni/shell/motorway

or we let the idiots go up ahead and leave those who want to stay with/help the learners do so

make sure there are no idiots on the ride, put the learners up the front. It is the tried and true method. It is silly to put learners at the back. Idiots can ride another day for a fast paced ride or do it solo.

Edit: I look forward to hearing of this learner rides success, as I believe it will be a good time to showcase that you guys can organise a ride that can stick together, travel at legal *or just above i.e 110km/h* learner/responsible speeds without losing people or having incidents. Also med kits and tool kits would be a good idea and charged cell phones. and fer the love of the big fella put the learners behind the leader.

**BANZAI** · 19th November 2008, 21:57

I might not be able to attend this ride.

I might attend Classic Car Race/meeting at Waiuku with Lotus Eusopa S

(not that I get chance to sit in the drivers seat but yea still..)

**retro asian** · 19th November 2008, 21:59

Originally Posted by BANZAI

I might not be able to attend this ride.

Well if the G-King is not going, I'm not going.

...actually I'd love to, but can't make to Shell by 11Am

**BANZAI** · 19th November 2008, 22:18

Originally Posted by retro asian

Well if the G-King is not going, I'm not going.

...actually I'd love to, but can't make to Shell by 11Am

Learner ride sounds good but Lotus Europa S and other classic cars sounds more appealing to me

**motorbyclist** · 19th November 2008, 22:30

Originally Posted by Drider87

make sure there are no idiots on the ride, put the learners up the front. It is the tried and true method.

since when?

i beleive i said in the first post that if you are ahead of me you aren't in the ride, you're in a concurrent ride not related to the learners.

ie i'd rather have the 'idiots' well clear of the less confident than nipping at their heels.

i can't make sure there arn't idiots, but but letting them out front ensures any bins aren't on my watch and can be addressed easily

Originally Posted by BANZAI

I might not be able to attend this ride.

I might attend Classic Car Race/meeting at Waiuku with Lotus Eusopa S

(not that I get chance to sit in the drivers seat but yea still..)

fucking come on the ride you pussy!

either walk around a whole lot of posers trying to impress their boyfriends and pretend they're young again, or actually go out and do what they wish they were still doing!

**BANZAI** · 19th November 2008, 22:35

Originally Posted by motorbyclist

fucking come on the ride you pussy!

either walk around a whole lot of posers trying to impress their boyfriends and pretend they're young again, or actually go out and do what they wish they were still doing!

I might be riding down there with Lotus Europa S taking twisty from Pukekoe to Waiuku

**Squiggles** · 19th November 2008, 22:45

Doesnt matter what you call it, Its still a car.

**BANZAI** · 19th November 2008, 23:00

Originally Posted by Squiggles

Doesnt matter what you call it, Its still a car.

But but it involves lots of $$$, 10x of TL

**Slyer** · 19th November 2008, 23:30

I have a funny story about banzai and cars...

**motorbyclist** · 19th November 2008, 23:51

so i've gone for a cruise and assessed the route. it's all sweet, plans have been made, lunch is sorted and all should be good

i checked out the muriwai beach accesses, went right up the south head, including the gravel (which is pretty tame but vibrated and broke my fairing

) and came back through riverhead and ridge road (another fine road for learners)

next post is the plan with maps

**motorbyclist** · 20th November 2008, 00:16

Meet on Symonds street bike parking, outside the engineering main entrances at about 10am, leave at 10:30(ish). We will stop by shell westgate to pick up northerners/westies and proceed to stop at the BP just before kumeu for gas. This will be the only gas stop.

At BP kumeu I'll give the usual briefing/protips and make sure we all know the route and the rules.

We should leave there at 11 or just a bit past. From there we head north up sh16 and stop in parakai to stretch our legs etc for a few minutes. Then we continue along into the twisties.

We will next stop at Shelly Beach for lunch. The cafe there does fish&chips and knows we're coming. Nice spot by the beach.

We leave there "when we do" and head north. Next stop is a lookout about 1km before the road turns to gravel. It is on a typical corner a biker will crash on (I nearly have!), so we can take that opportunity to look at why this is and what to do if we don't know it's there. This is a key skill in riding, and you don't want to learn it the hard way.

Then we head back south. We will stop on the way down at a rest area to again stretch/break before continuing to Parakai. From there we will decide if we go home back down sh16 or go through helensville and/or riverhead etc etc

The breaks are planned for location and timing so the learners can ask any questions and/or heed any advice. I can also give warnings of what lies ahead

So quit arguing!

map link here, and attached