Terrorist (namely muslim) cowards

[Trumpess]

Too true. I posted earlier that:

"the ability to tolerate difference comes with maturity and sadly some of us (here) will never get there"

for some reason this was also removed

Short-Circut ... I wasnt implying my statement of - " Its extremley sad that everyone has to out do each other and try to be right all the time" -to people here in the forum.
It was more a broader finger point world wide, as it affects all of us world wide.
None of us are perfect, none of us are as intelligent as we make out to be. If we were there wouldnt be the unrest that there is, we would actually live in peace and enjoy our lives.

[NOMIS]

I disagree. I have known people of many faiths : Christian (of many varieties) , Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Pagan, and others. I have discussed matters religious and theological with them. Very seldom indeed has it been wholly (or even somewhat) shit. Most , of couse, believe quite strongly that theres is the "correct" path. And will try to persuade you of the correctness of that belief. But, in my experience , almost always politely and reasonably

And I think I am one of these people whom have had these conversations with you on the infamous Religion thread.

I do not think I have ever had a heated conversation with anyone from another religion except there swearing and acusations of non believers to be honest. Unphasing and i can understand but I could never imagine my self as a Christian trying to force physically or verbally my religion into another person. I will how ever preach my religion unashamed to anyone who wants to hear.

[PirateJafa]

Recently, a British MP stated that they were going to conduct a review on how they handle terrorism in the UK.

Why? The standard method of shooting first and asking questions later, works fine.

You might recall a certain chap who was pretty much murdered in a subway car by a policeman in the UK a year or two ago.

His crime? Looking arabic, whilst running onto a subway car with a backpack.

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What don't you understand about the analogy of a dangerous incurable disease of the human body (HIV) and a dangerous incurable disease of the human mind (the 7th centry death cult under discussion)?

It's not hard for one to completely misrepresent other pople's belief systems - especially when one is ignorant to start with. I might be tempted describe an Act party supporter as infectous carrier of a dangerous and damaging disease.

By the way are you and Finn in some kind of relationship?, cause you both seem to be afflicted by the aforementioned disease and you always make an appearance in each other's threads

[Jantar]

It's not hard for one to completely misrepresent other pople's belief systems - especially when one is ignorant to start with. I might be tempted describe an Act party supporter as infectous carrier of a dangerous and damaging disease.

Yes, and if any ACT party supporters start blowing up buildings and killing innocent women and children in the name of the ACT party, then I would support your temptation to make such a description. But until that happens you are simply raising a straw man argument.

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Short-Circut ... I wasnt implying my statement of - " Its extremley sad that everyone has to out do each other and try to be right all the time" -to people here in the forum.
It was more a broader finger point world wide, as it affects all of us world wide.
None of us are perfect, none of us are as intelligent as we make out to be. If we were there wouldnt be the unrest that there is, we would actually live in peace and enjoy our lives.

Yeah I did get that. My response was both a pot shot at some in here who demonstrate extreme intolerance but it was also a general statement which I believe to be true.

[Mikkel]

Can't we all just get along?

They (the terrorist) are cowards - they believe that women, children, civilians are all legitimate targets.

Well, that is YOUR (and mine and probably quite a few others') opinion. In their eyes they are glorious defenders of the one true faith, and if they should be lucky enough to die in their endeavour they'll be martyrs too. They can not do anything wrong as long as they adhere to the word of the Quran and they shall be given 72 virgins upon their entry to heaven. Mind you, that's 72 virgins that they can deflower every day and who will then be reborn as virgins the next morning...

Hell if I will ever understand that mindset.

Truth be told, I believe that the only reason we are unable to deal with the terrorist menace is simply because we've grown into soft PC-bullshit-swallowing, too-comfortable-to-really-give-a-fuck, pseudo-humanitarian surrender monkeys - oh and cheese-eating too, cheese is good.
That and the misunderstood approach to civil liberties in the western world today - that they are something everyone has an intrinsic right to, not something that everyone has to earn for themselves - and the futile endeavour to impose said liberties upon cultures that are not able to appreciate them yet.

[PirateJafa]

They (the terrorist) are cowards - they believe that women, children, civilians are all legitimate targets.

Well I wouldn't be surprised if it was more than that. In today's world of depleted uranium armour and the like, it's probably more a case of "targets they can actually affect".

Truth be told, I believe that the only reason we are unable to deal with the terrorist menace is simply because we've grown into soft PC-bullshit-swallowing, too-comfortable-to-really-give-a-fuck, pseudo-humanitarian surrender monkeys - oh and cheese-eating too, cheese is good.
That and the misunderstood approach to civil liberties in the western world today - that they are something everyone has an intrinsic right to, not something that everyone has to earn for themselves - and the futile endeavour to impose said liberties upon cultures that are not able to appreciate them yet.

Sounds like a plan. Let's shove you in gaol on some godforsaken island where "our" laws do not apply, then you can earn those liberties/your way out from your cell. Good luck matey.

[MisterD]

It's not hard for one to completely misrepresent other pople's belief systems - especially when one is ignorant to start with. I might be tempted describe an Act party supporter as infectous carrier of a dangerous and damaging disease.

Yeah whatever. As far as I am concerned there are two types of "belief systems" in this world; Those that are based on fact and "faiths" which by definition require no factual basis. What we are discussing is not the detail of the belief, but the impact it has on humanity generally - and I play no favourites in that regard, but this is not the thread to criticise the effect of the Pope's views on contraception.

Islam is a religion that is very well designed to use sanctioned violence to aid its spread, whether you choose to believe that the "design" is deliberate human design or an apparent design that has evolved to compete with other religions is an interesting argument I'd be happy to have in the Scottish Thread...

[raftn]

What don't you understand about the analogy of a dangerous incurable disease of the human body (HIV) and a dangerous incurable disease of the human mind (the 7th centry death cult under discussion)?

Personally you are grabing at straws if you think there is a similarity between hiv, and fundementalsit Islam.........

[puddytat]

When you got over a billion odd people in a country like China, you can sort of understand why they're so keen to keep religion under control....Dogma cuts both ways.
Funny, I find that most Religions have become a sorry load of bigotry....sin 6 days a week & repent on the seventh

[Magua]

What don't you understand about the analogy of a dangerous incurable disease of the human body (HIV) and a dangerous incurable disease of the human mind (the 7th centry death cult under discussion)?

Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush. The 'disease' of the mind is not inherent to Islam. Jihad is a struggle, but struggle is not defined as violent. It can be discussion to convince others etc. Violence is not at the heart of Islam.

[Mikkel]

Jihad is a struggle, but struggle is not defined as violent. It can be discussion to convince others etc.

But what peaceful solutions do you see, when you quite early in your struggle realise that there's a lot of people out there who consider your message and sentiments utter bollocks? Discussion rarely makes anyone change their mind, and I'll present this as evidence A in that argument.

But I agree Islam isn't worse than other religions. Christianity used similar methods... some 600 years ago or so. However, quite a lot has changed since then.

[Magua]

But what peaceful solutions do you see, when you quite early in your struggle realise that there's a lot of people out there who consider your message and sentiments utter bollocks? Discussion rarely makes anyone change their mind, and I'll present this as evidence A in that case.

But I agree Islam isn't worse than other religions. Christianity used similar methods... some 600 years ago or so. However, quite a lot has changed since then.

Your link doesn't work.

[Oscar]

But what peaceful solutions do you see, when you quite early in your struggle realise that there's a lot of people out there who consider your message and sentiments utter bollocks? Discussion rarely makes anyone change their mind, and I'll present this as evidence A in that argument.

But I agree Islam isn't worse than other religions. Christianity used similar methods... some 600 years ago or so. However, quite a lot has changed since then.

Christians may have changed their methods in 600 years but not that much has changed. People still die on a regular basis for that religion, which is primarily responsible for lots of recent nasty wars/insurrections such as Northern Ireland and Bosnia.