Public perception.

[Lissa]

But its not in context. Rage from cage drivers towards bikers could easily have been directed at someone being a dick in a car. Its not the fact that person is on a bike but because that person is a dick. Most people on KB drive a car as well as a bike, I bet you if they are a dick on a bike they are dick in a car. Its not the vehicle to blame its the person on or in it.

I have been on the rimutakas in my car and had car pass me on blind corners, cars being on my side of the road as I go around a corner, I have had cars tailgating me, I had people pass me in cages and had to slow down so they get safely out of the way of another cage coming the other way. Ive had more bad experiences in my car, and been scared shitless than on my bike. Infact I was in a car accident were a car was doing 100km in a 50km and rammed right up the arse of my car.

Do you see my point? People dont brand all motorcyclist dicks if they see a couple dicking around. Just like I dont brand all cage drivers dicks even though I see alot of them around.

[The Pastor]

But its not in context. Rage from cage drivers towards bikers could easily have been directed at someone being a dick in a car. Its not the fact that person is on a bike but because that person is a dick. Most people on KB drive a car as well as a bike, I bet you if they are a dick on a bike they are dick in a car. Its not the vehicle to blame its the person on or in it.

I have been on the rimutakas in my car and had car pass me on blind corners, cars being on my side of the road as I go around a corner, I have had cars tailgating me, I had people pass me in cages and had to slow down so they get safely out of the way of another cage coming the other way. Ive had more bad experiences in my car, and been scared shitless than on my bike. Infact I was in a car accident were a car was doing 100km in a 50km and rammed right up the arse of my car.

Do you see my point? People dont brand all motorcyclist dicks if they see a couple dicking around. Just like I dont brand all cage drivers dicks even though I see alot of them around.

nah thats just silly!

[Lissa]

nah thats just silly!

I guess so.

[Katman]

Its not the vehicle to blame its the person on or in it.

Precisely.

And in a car versus bike it's always the motorcyclist that will come off second best.

[Ragingrob]

Precisely.

And in a car versus bike it's always the motorcyclist that will come off second best.

And? You're point?

You've agreed that it's the person, not the bike. So if a biker rides like a dick and gets knocked off that's his fault.

You've just agreed with Lissa saying that car drivers don't hold anything against bikers as a whole just cause of a few bad riders.

Which the opposite of what you've been trying to say.

[kiwifruit]

People dont brand all motorcyclist dicks if they see a couple dicking around. Just like I dont brand all cage drivers dicks even though I see alot of them around.

Yeah, alot of them do. Just like alot of people brand cage drivers dicks, etc. You are at the intelligent end of the scale, being able to see its only a few being "dicks".

[Lissa]

Precisely.

And in a car versus bike it's always the motorcyclist that will come off second best.

I give up!

Yes of course if there was a car versus bike the motorcyclist will come off second best... you are completely right!! No one is going to argue against that.

As for public perception, I have given my opinion, (see above). There is no public perception towards motorcycle riders, or very little, there is only Katmans perception of what he thinks the public perception is and also katmans perception of how all motorcyclist apparently think which is we don't take any accountability towards the way we ride or how the public perceive us... LOL

Thanks Rob!

Kiwi - Wow, and I am blond! cheers

[Finn]

I don't give a damn what the public think of me when I'm riding. Why would I care what a pack of morons think?

[Lissa]

And? You're point?

You've agreed that it's the person, not the bike. So if a biker rides like a dick and gets knocked off that's his fault.

You've just agreed with Lissa saying that car drivers don't hold anything against bikers as a whole just cause of a few bad riders.

Which the opposite of what you've been trying to say.

Yea is why I am now giving up LOL

[Katman]

You've agreed that it's the person, not the bike. So if a biker rides like a dick and gets knocked off that's his fault.

If it's that biker.

What if it just happens to be the next biker who comes along that cops that car drivers pent up aggression?

Which brings me back to the point that our riding, as individuals, can adversely impact upon motorcyclists as a whole - whether it be from car drivers or the government.

[Lissa]

What if it just happens to be the next biker who comes along that cops that car drivers pent up aggression?

So who has the problem the biker or the car driver? Who has an aggression problem, man the car driver must be an angry fellow, those kind of people should be in anger management and taken off the road! What if the car driver goes home and takes out his pent up aggression on his wife and kids? What if .... what if.... you have a strange way of looking at things.


Ok have given up now... promise.

[Lissa]

Which brings me back to the point that our riding, as individuals, can adversely impact upon motorcyclists as a whole - whether it be from car drivers or the government.

Oh wait...

The way we discipline our kids can adversely impact parents as a whole... etc etc.

The way we drive our cars.. such as txting etc can adversly impact car drivers as a whole... etc etc

People who smoke in their cars can adversly impact smokers as a whole... etc etc.

This is why this is all rubbish. Sorry you got to think outside your little square box motorcyling world.

[Oscar]

So who has the problem the biker or the car driver? Who has an aggression problem, man the car driver must be an angry fellow, those kind of people should be in anger management and taken off the road! What if the car driver goes home and takes out his pent up aggression on his wife and kids? What if .... what if.... you have a strange way of looking at things.


Ok have given up now... promise.

What difference does it make who has the problem?
The equation goes:

Lots of pissed of car drivers + A few stoopid bikers = Restrictive laws and regulations.

In the final analysis it don't matter who is wrong or who has the anger management problem, the minority is always gonna get the sharp end of the deal.

[Katman]

Oh wait...

The way we discipline our kids can adversely impact parents as a whole... etc etc.

The way we drive our cars.. such as txting etc can adversly impact car drivers as a whole... etc etc

People who smoke in their cars can adversly impact smokers as a whole... etc etc.

This is why this is all rubbish. Sorry you got to think outside your little square box motorcyling world.

Oh wait...

Anti-smacking law.

Boy racer laws.

Anti-smoking law.

[Lissa]

Okay I get it!

We as Motorcyclist are to blame for the cage drivers who dont have enough common sense to not stereotype all motorcyclist as dick heads.

We as Motorcyclist are to blame for Cage Drivers who happen to have aggression problems who go out of there way to try and get us.

So how do we as Motorcyclist combat this problem?

Dont be a dick on your bike.

Common sense really. Fuck is that what you are trying to say Katman?