SH 22 is a disgrace.

[nosebleed]

I concur BD, shot down there today as I didnt want to get stopped on R16 (again) and wasn't in the headspace for Coromandel.

But man that was a shocker! made me take R1 home, that did

...signs everywhere stating "ICE - GRIT"....

Same signs are out on R22 slowfox

[Reckless]

I can think of a dozen corners in good nick which I'd love to see you take at the 100km/h speed limit.

Hey I'm not saying you should be able to take every corner at the speed limit Pirate. Not quite sure how you got that impression?

But more seriously. The road is not a racetrack and all the rubbish. You should always have something left in reserve just in case.

The worst thing I can think of is unmarked roadworks, but on the whole NZ's roads aren't too bad.If you're having trouble with these roads, you probably need to rethink you riding style.

Secondly I was giving my opinion on the general poor state of the roads. I don't quite see where I commented that I couldn't handle them, didn't leave anything in reserve or need to change my old farts large safety margin riding style.

BTW not trying to get into a hassle with you mate but I have to disagree I do think our roads are getting to the point (as stated in the first few posts) that they are getting really bad! It was a general over all observation not specific to myself!
The written word seems so harsh sometimes!! LOL!!

[Big Dave]

I was on three wheels today and glad of it.
Used the Can-Am spyder as a conveyance for weekend.
In the prevailing conditions it was quite ideal for 22 too, to be true.

[PirateJafa]

Hey I'm not saying you should be able to take every corner at the speed limit Pirate. Not quite sure how you got that impression?

If a road has 100K speed limit it should be maintained so you can travel safely at that limit.

Might just be me. Besides, I hate all this "road-straightening" bullshit.

Secondly I was giving my opinion on the general poor state of the roads. I don't quite see where I commented that I couldn't handle them, didn't leave anything in reserve or need to change my old farts large safety margin riding style.

BTW not trying to get into a hassle with you mate but I have to disagree I do think our roads are getting to the point (as stated in the first few posts) that they are getting really bad! It was a general over all observation not specific to myself!

My point still stands. The roads aren't that bad. The calibre of many of the drivers in the country is a whole 'nother question however. Although having learnt to drive in a Lada in Russia, I generally consider most NZ roads as silky smooth. :slap:

[Ragingrob]

I agree, did it after not riding for a while and didn't think much of it... Did SH16 then to Waipu yesterday and holy shit sh22 is shite!

[nosebleed]

You weren't at Motomail this morning was ya? There was a guy there on a CanAm setting off with his wife as pillion/passenger/cargo (whatever they call the other person a 3 wheeler) Funky looking thing they are, sharing in the Rotax brotherhood and all.

[Reckless]

[QUOTE]If a road has 100K speed limit it should be maintained so you can travel safely at that limit.QUOTE]

Oh I get it badly written by me!

My point still stands. The roads aren't that bad. The calibre of many of the drivers in the country is a whole 'nother question however. Although having learnt to drive in a Lada in Russia, I generally consider most NZ roads as silky smooth. :slap:

Ok cool, we'll have to agree to disagree. I reckon those slick stretches where the tar is exposed cause alot of grief in the wet. Very hard to read for cagers and some bikers.

[Big Dave]

not guilty. headed straight south

[Goblin]

It's not just SH22. Every road out of Rotorua is in the same state. Seems like every peice of road they have resealed has this problem. I think all the old school road makers have all died off and taken their skills and knowlege with them. Now we have a bunch of young up-starts who have bluffed their way into jobs but have no clue how to make roads that last.

[Elysium]

It's not just SH22. Every road out of Rotorua is in the same state. Seems like every peice of road they have resealed has this problem. I think all the old school road makers have all died off and taken their skills and knowlege with them. Now we have a bunch of young up-starts who have bluffed their way into jobs but have no clue how to make roads that last.

So true. Not like those old 60 year old, pipe smoking road workers we used to have.

[Motu]

Last weekend Rotowaro Rd had the worse case of bleeding I've ever seen,it was a pool of liquid tar from one side of the road to the other....I have tar on my bike and boots (lucky I don't worry about such things).Later I was on SH22 and Hetherington road.....both were pretty good really.This weekend I was on the east side of SH1,and the roads were good,just a few glistening spots that gave me plenty of warning.

[Rodney007]

dont be fooled guys.. that sticky black stuff u can hit at mega speeds, its like hot rubber sticking to your tyres !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDXD

[Marmoot]

The road is not a racetrack and all the rubbish. You should always have something left in reserve just in case.

When a road dictates that the only way to have something left in reserve is to move at mobility-scooter pace, then the road does have some problem.

[PirateJafa]

When a road dictates that the only way to have something left in reserve is to move at mobility-scooter pace, then the road does have some problem.

No, it's just trying to say you should have invested in some knobblies.

Or chosen your route more wisely.

[Marmoot]

No, it's just trying to say you should have invested in some knobblies.

Or chosen your route more wisely.

1. I am not sure if knobblies are intended for proper road use. Check again, might contravene with your principle of safe riding if it is indeed not fit-for-purpose on normal tar-sealed road.

2. The argument for "chosen your route more wisely" is irrelevant. Roads are meant to be driven on, and if they cannot accommodate this then they are not fit-for-purpose and hence a problem that needs addressing.