Sorry guys I have to go, thanks for you comments
Chaio![]()
Sorry guys I have to go, thanks for you comments
Chaio![]()
Yeah it's a classic, TTs were always good bikes, but if you have an old bike that was crap when it was new, then now it's just 'old' (and still crap) .....not a classic.
Classic to me means when something changed so radically that overnight stuff that went before was, if not obsolete, then outdated. EG the CB750 at a time when H-D had just discovered an alternative to side valves.
The Kawasaki Z1 raised the bar in terms of power. The GS750 Suzuki showed that Jap bikes could handle well.
There is a lot of older stuff that is termed classic just because it is old, but had no redeeming features then and doesn't now, apart from age.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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"Japanese Classic" is an oxymoron as far as I'm concerned.....they just don't leak enough "Character" on the garage floor. Mind you I'm just a European snob (albeit a poor one who can't afford a modern bike![]()
In space, no one can smell your fart.
How about a music analogy.
'Staying Alive' is a classic as its over 25 years old.
where as 'Child of Mine' is not.....
My two bobs worth.
I think a classic is a bike that represented a radical shift in thinking about what a bike could be. I'm biased of course. Think first year of manufacture. Kawasaki Mach III, Z1, CB750 K0, CBX, Norton Commando, RE5 Suzuki, Goldwing, Hayabusa, GSXR, Ducati Super Sport, Benelli 6 or whatever it was called, Honda VFR, and dare I say it, the early HD XLCH models.
The introduction of the model had to get people buzzing about it and wanting to see and or own the bike. Subsequent refinements of the model to me are a bit of a yawn. Think Kawasaki 400 triple. I just doesn't have the raw emotive in your face "here I am" that the Mach III had. The 400 is just cashing in on the triple theme, in my opinion.
A CB750 K6 Honda is just a 6th year model down the track refinement of the K0 and a bit of a bore. Like grandma. She got old, slower, dowdy, her pipes were all baffled up and she lost the hot cam and became just plain boring in the long run.
So think "what's this new model I have heard about" and "Bloody hell, I've got to have one!"
Hey, if goe blow rocks up you me and says thats a classic. Its fine by me.
Yip your TT500 is a classic.
The "same model" question was answered many years back - even before we (I, actually) wrote the first rules for post-classic racing in NZ. Later-made examples of an existing model are allowed in where you have a cut-off year.
The 25-year rolling cut-off is common world-wide in ther historic vehicle movement.
"Classic", like fairness, taste, and humour, depends intensely on where you stand. That is why the "classic" definition of most vehicle clubs relies on nothing more elaborate than a 25-year cutoff.
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