Wellington Wednesday Night Cruisy Summer Rides -- 2008/09

[Drogen Omen]

Is there a ride set for this Wednesday 24/12/2008?

Also was wondering if the longer ride up to Palmy was happening on the Wednesday 31/12/2008 and if so what time is the meet at the duck pond. I think a 9:30am or 10am meet would be good.

[ArcAngellives]

Hey is there one on christmas eve ? you know im just trying to avoid my family

[captain_andrey]

I'm up for a ride, I have nothing better to do.

[Fatjim]

There has been enough talk, if people want things to change come along and do something about it. Bitching on here about a ride you havnt been on this year can only reduce crashes if it reduces the number of people who come, which Im sure isnt anyones intention.

First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

[Bullitt]

First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

Some facts have been pointed out, alot more opinions have been stated.

There are reasons why every individual crash has occured. But theres no reason why there have been so many crashes. Not one post in this thread will have stoped a TCWNR crash in the past or the future.

Ive been riding awhile but I in no way consider myself in a position to give advice to newer riders, most of it would do more harm than good. Im not patting myself on the back for attending, but Im also not trying to put other people off attending.

Come along on the ride or dont, post constructive comments regarding an individual week or the ride overall if you want but saying how terrible everything is is no help to anyone

[Hawkeye]

Can I just say for the record - Number One, I just that new avatar (not your signature one by the way, I'm not THAT way inclined)

[koba]

Here, this may help with the sand contamination some of you lads have.

[Fatjim]

Some facts have been pointed out, alot more opinions have been stated.

There are reasons why every individual crash has occured. But theres no reason why there have been so many crashes. Not one post in this thread will have stoped a TCWNR crash in the past or the future.

Ive been riding awhile but I in no way consider myself in a position to give advice to newer riders, most of it would do more harm than good. Im not patting myself on the back for attending, but Im also not trying to put other people off attending.

Come along on the ride or dont, post constructive comments regarding an individual week or the ride overall if you want but saying how terrible everything is is no help to anyone

Actually, saying how "terrible everything is" is constructive, it may get some people to stop and think. As for the rest of your post, honestly, it comes across as meaningless and lacking in any substance. Its a very blah blah blah thing. I kinda feel like the Simpsons dog. What point are you actually trying to get accross?

[WuZards-Eugene]

Im in. Whats the plan, waiarapas or wainui coast???

[Ocean1]

I think you'll remember then that this was a mentoring ride.

Which, presumably, required the attendance of a few mentors ™ eh?

We didn't make a point of riding in groups, we had a front and a rear. With the more experienced helping the noobs get to the top and back.

You talk to some of the guys/gals who started as noobs when this ride was going 2 years ago. How many of them remember other riders mentoring them by riding with them in 2's, or maybe 3's at most.

So, you did ride in groups… or not?

I wouldn't want to ride as a group on Wednesday. Thursday with experienced riders gives me the shivers enough.

First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

No, dude, you’re definitely bitching. And if you figure turning up yourself ain’t going to help then what the hell makes you think blaming anyone else is?

You seem to suggest the senior dudes are directly responsible for the couple of low speed low-sides there’s been, should be responsible for every aspect of the noobs safety. Whatever anyone may think of that is irrelevant, there ARE no seniors turning up, certainly nowhere near enough to handle 2 or 3 learners each. And ill considered negative bullshit like this makes damn sure they won’t.

So when the next gaggle of noobs trundles off over the hill all on their lonesome I'm pickin' the person responsible for their safety will be you.

[Number One]

Can I just say for the record - Number One, I just that new avatar (not your signature one by the way, I'm not THAT way inclined)

Soooooo off topic BUT I am pleased that it pleased you sir

[Fatjim]

Which, presumably, required the attendance of a few mentors ™ eh?





So, you did ride in groups… or not?





No, dude, you’re definitely bitching. And if you figure turning up yourself ain’t going to help then what the hell makes you think blaming anyone else is?

You seem to suggest the senior dudes are directly responsible for the couple of low speed low-sides there’s been, should be responsible for every aspect of the noobs safety. Whatever anyone may think of that is irrelevant, there ARE no seniors turning up, certainly nowhere near enough to handle 2 or 3 learners each. And ill considered negative bullshit like this makes damn sure they won’t.

So when the next gaggle of noobs trundles off over the hill all on their lonesome I'm pickin' the person responsible for their safety will be you.

sorry I don't agree with you. I'm perfectly free to sit back here and criticise if I want to. Just cause I don't show up on the WNR anymore doesn't make my opinions any less valid. Talk about burying your head in the sand.

The simple fact is: MORE people than NORMAL are falling off. Maybe the ride needs to re-evaluate what factors are contributing that can be eliminated. Bleating about people not showing up is a cop out.

[Drogen Omen]

I have to go to family xmas eve dinner so cant do this wednesday...

But I am SUPER keen for the all day ride up to Palmy on the Wednesday 31/12/2008

[325rocket]

Actually, saying how "terrible everything is" is constructive, ... ... ...
What point are you actually trying to get accross?

That pissing and moaning wont achieve anything … much like you stated yourself (below)

why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.
.

thats the winning attitude!

sorry I don't agree with you. I'm perfectly free to sit back here and criticise if I want to. Just cause I don't show up on the WNR anymore doesn't make my opinions any less valid.

Bleating about people not showing up is a cop out.

How about just bleating in general? Hows that working so far?

[Drogen Omen]

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......





YOU BUNCH BITCH TOO MUCH...
PLAY NICE OTHERWISE IM GONA HAVE TO DRIVE OVER ALL YOUR BIKES WITH MY TANK... hmmm need to win lotto first so i can buy a tank... didnt think that one through... hahahahahahaha!!!