Manslaughter charge for bloke who killed tagger

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Dont ask him to think!!!!!More fun if he taps out his crap without thought.

Your last two pages of drivel show what an expert you are in responding without thought.

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I am deeply ashamed to admit i had to whack my nephew round the arse today after repeated "dont do that".Off to the big house i go maybe...

Case in point. Are you that brain damaged that you don't realise this isn't an anti-smacking thread? Or did you whack him with a knife through the chest for drawing on your wall with crayons?

That was your last chance by the way - one less moron I need to respond to (no point if you are unable to engage in the discussion at an adult level)

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I tell you one thing... If the property owner had got beaten to with an inch of his life or even killed... it would have only made the news for five minutes then be forgotten about the next day.

Strangely people seem more shocked if a law abiding citizen beats the living daylights out of or kills a criminal.

Yeah I think it could have something to do with the fact that to kill someone for low level childish vandalism is a bit unusual

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Yeah I think it could have something to do with the fact that to kill someone for low level childish vandalism is a bit unusual

Or maybe because it's that entrenched in people's psyche that criminals are cool and tough, while law abiding citizens are wimpey timid little nerds.

Anything that goes against this hollywood stereotype comes as a shock. It isn't "normal" or the way it's meant to be.

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Question for Short circut, should the more "native to New Zealand" prisoners be released from prison because they are only there due to colonisation, and imposition on unfair or unjust laws upon their culture? Should they be allowed to continue there actions according to pre colonisation culture and any non "more native to New Zealander" be serverly punished under their laws for any wrong doings against said "more native to New Zealanders"?

Thoughts, answers....

[Hitcher]

Thoughts, answers...

Develop a reasoned and credible hypothesis and post that for critique, rather than talkback radio-inspired nonsense.

Merry Christmas.

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Develop a reasoned and credible hypothesis and post that for critique, rather than talkback radio-inspired nonsense.

Merry Christmas.

Read my first post on this subject, not enough punctiation in it for you maybe?

Talk back radio? Is that something you do whilst racking up post counts?

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Question for Short circut, should the more "native to New Zealand" prisoners be released from prison because they are only there due to colonisation, and imposition on unfair or unjust laws upon their culture? Should they be allowed to continue there actions according to pre colonisation culture and any non "more native to New Zealander" be serverly punished under their laws for any wrong doings against said "more native to New Zealanders"?

Thoughts, answers....

What do you think? Of course not! What I was arguing was that the law doesn't seem to be being applied consistently enough. But you seem to have blurred the issues completely.

If you genuinely want history and sociology lessons about the effects of colonisation on indigenious people and the relationships between minority cultures, poverty and crime then enrol in university and learn to listen rather than burble shite.

I suspect as Hitcher has observed that you would be well suited to talk back - you could listen to shite burbling all day long and further educate yourself that way

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No one cares. Everybody expects stuff like that to happen.

People only act shocked when a law abiding citizen beats the shit out of/kills a criminal.

Nice one - I knew I should have read some of your earlier drivel. Killing someone hardly makes one a law abiding citizen does it?


Your claim that the boy who was killed is a criminal is based on what the fact that he tagged on this guys fence? You wouldn't have jay walked, hit anyone, or pissed in public at anytime in your life would you?

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What do you think? Of course not! What I was arguing was that the law doesn't seem to be being applied consistently enough. But you seem to have blurred the issues completely.

If you genuinely want history and sociology lessons about the effects of colonisation on indigenious people and the relationships between minority cultures, poverty and crime then enrol in university and learn to listen rather than burble shite.

Fair enough, just trying to carify your position on the race issue involved in this case and others. I too think that the prison population is overly representative of certain races, however I find it hard to blame the colonisation or minority culture argument. This does a disservice to people of those races who work hard, live within societies bounds and prosper, and still maintain their culture.


And history is best sourced from Libraries and Archives, unfortunatly universities offer to much of a slanted perspective on New Zealand history at the moment. Just my opinion, or maybe its just me burbling shite?

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Fair enough, just trying to carify your position on the race issue involved in this case and others. I too think that the prison population is overly representative of certain races, however I find it hard to blame the colonisation or minority culture argument. This does a disservice to people of those races who work hard, live within societies bounds and prosper, and still maintain their culture.


And history is best sourced from Libraries and Archives, unfortunatly universities offer to much of a slanted perspective on New Zealand history at the moment. Just my opinion, or maybe its just me burbling shite?

Yep burbling shite - no need for education for you then. Where do you get your balanced perspective? Talkback or 3 news?

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Yep burbling shite - to smart for education now are we? Where do you get your balanced perspective? Talkback or 3 news?

No the point was that the current education leaves out to much information about what happend, but if your argument doesnt stack up you can allways pull out the "burbling shite" argument, wait you already did.....

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Nice one - I knew I should have read some of your earlier drivel. Killing someone hardly makes one a law abiding citizen does it?

Do you get this upset when someone gets stabbed to death in the main street while coming to the aid of a lady... or a purse snatcher runs their victim over in a shopping maul car park?

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...Your claim that the boy who was killed is a criminal is based on what the fact that he tagged on this guys fence? ...

Willfull damage IS a criminal offence, so yes, the boy was a criminal. If you have any evidence that the middle aged man had committed any crimes prior to the tagging, then lets hear about it.

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Well he obviously didn't go after them with a knife to talk it through, so no in answer to your question, that very fact alone strengthens my argument doesn't it? He pursued them with a knife and with intent.

Intent? Prove it.

If he hadn't had the knife there is a distinct possibility the fence owner would have been hospitalised at least if not kicked to death or similar.

Saying he took the knife out with intent to kill somebody is as spurious as saying you wear a seatbelt in a car because you intend to crash....

This discyssion is going around in circles, mainly your circle.

Time to put me indicator on a peel off this roundamabout....