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    And that concludes that.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    Why it's only off camber, you dont really lean that much on gravel roads anyway. You are standing on the pegs and slinging your upper body into it.

    Only issue i had ever had with off camber corners was peg down too quick, never had any problems whatsoever with difference in traction because of this be it tarmac or gravel.
    Mark, please don't take this as abuse or a dig, but have a little read of a basic physics book or even make a model with a toy bike and a cambered/off cambered turn. There is a very good reason you can go faster around a cambered turn as opposed to off camber and it's got nothing to do with pegs decking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Mark, please don't take this as abuse or a dig, but have a little read of a basic physics book or even make a model with a toy bike and a cambered/off cambered turn. There is a very good reason you can go faster around a cambered turn as opposed to off camber and it's got nothing to do with pegs decking out.

    Not a dig? you stalk me in every other thread to get your word in trashy.

    Yes i know lose traction etc...it's called skill, if you had some you would understand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    Go easy guys. I remember when I was young & knew everthing - what surprises me now as I get older is how much I've forgotten
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    Quote Originally Posted by warewolf View Post
    I've finally made it on KB!

    Got red-rep'ed by underpants-stain himself!!
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    Love you to Skiddy.

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    at the riders briefing last night on the safari they spent quite a bit of time explaining the corner, it's history and the fact it may still have dazzle on the rocks, where it was.
    Was done really well, dave pointed out there were two views, "ride to the conditions, shouldn't be marked" and "it was a nasty corner that catches riders out" Ryans Bend he called it!
    so it will be interesting today to see how many of 140 plus riders do get caught out.

    good on you Ryan for doing your best to stop anyone else getting hurt.

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    the dazzle paint was still there on sunday. i was going the other way so wouldnt have noticed the corner if it wasnt there. although the bule shed wasnt hard to miss

    went back over the corner a few times to get used to it for next time. didnt go that fast so it wasnt a problem but i can see how it catches so many people out

    thanks for marking it out Coonyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
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    Love you to Skiddy.

    Cheers R
    AWWWWW.

    I didn't get any, you fullahs got some,Mrs jatz got some, I feel all left out

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATZ View Post
    AWWWWW.

    I didn't get any, you fullahs got some,Mrs jatz got some, I feel all left out

    BUT.........'least I get quoted in his signature.(shame he didn't Quote all the post)
    Damn... another club I haven't been invited to join yet. Come on Skidmarks- ya moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Lander View Post
    Okay so I've read the thread (well, most of it!) and I am completely confounded by the level of resistance to Ryans' re-engineering suggestions with a view to making 'The Corner' more obvious.

    As somebody who has spent many days and weeks undertaking Search and Rescue missions to pull people out of the bush, both inexperienced fools and experienced experts, and as somebody who has lost a very good (and experienced) friend to the bush I whole heartedly support Ryans' proposal.

    I would counsel that the cost of a rescue, the human cost to the injured party and their families (Good on ya MagicFairy!) then the efforts required to modify a track to 'assist', not nanny, is a small price to pay.

    The trouble is it is always the same people that are willing to spend time supporting the continuity of a sport, and always the same 'others' that steadfastly refuse to contribute.

    Based on your comments SkidMark (since we've never met) I can only assume that be you experienced or otherwise, you fall into the 'Fools' camp who takes everything they can from a sport and seldom contributes to the sport. To you I say, enjoy it while it lasts and for as long as you enjoy your temporary residency status on this planet.

    I would also advise, that due to attitudes such the one you have displayed on this thread, I have since quit Search and Rescue and developed a somewhat reluctant belief in Darwinism - the strongest will survive and the dumbest will fall short. 'Gene-o-Kleen' if you like!
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    Hi all,

    As most know, the Yamaha Safari sent 140 riders through the Rainbow last Monday, after specifically warning them the night before of the history of the vital bend. I explained that this was an experiment in education, and that the exam was a practical one, to be held 12 hours later. No one crashed on THE corner. However, I have just (this morning) learnt that in 2004 a group of three riders all sailed in together, with the quickest going over the bars in a heap, but no harm done to any. Very lucky.

    However, again, two riders did crash in the Rainbow during the Safari, both at the same place (separately), and both for the same reason - inattention. This was at the final ford, heading north (Nocatchem Stream), on a straight piece of sealed road with not only perfect visibility on a dry and sunny day, but there's also a sign warning of the impending water crossing. Both locked the front wheel on the approach to the crest, both fell heavily (one KTM 400, one DR 650) with the bikes and riders ending up in the stream, the Suzuki rider breaking his leg and (after toughing it out by riding to St Arnaud) getting an ambulance ride to Nelson.

    When I approached Ryan's Bend, I felt the dazzled stones were the best way to indicate 'something' about the road requires extra care, and that should be enough for the thinking rider. For those who can't concentrate on their riding, there's nothing you can do.

    In my opinion, Ryan has done the right thing with the dazzled rocks, and copped on the chin all the criticism that has followed.

    Also on the Safari, another rider got an ambulance and helicopter ride out from Random Spur Road, after an endo into a deep hole as a consequence of following too closely in heavy dust. There is no intention of further marking this hazard!

    I say again, and for my final time on this thread, ride to the conditions, think about your riding all the time, and pay attention.

    To those Safari riders who did exactly that (by far the majority), a wonderful and safe three days adventuring was had, with new places enjoyed in (mostly) great weather, and in good company.

    There's the beginning of a plan for 2010, details from Mike Britton in due course.

    Dave B

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    interesting post Racing Dave - on the two day 'relaxed' version of the DB1000 I to almost came to grief when approaching the ford at Nocatchem Stream as we were leaving the Rainbow on the Saturday evening.

    I was carrying too much speed as I crested the approach to the ford - applied sufficient braking to recover in time but heard the squeal of the tyres of my DRZ400 mounted friend riding close behind who almost tail gated me!

    He acknowledges he was not concentrating at the time - being distracted he says by the sign proclaiming the name of the stream 'Nocatchem'.

    So ...... this motorcycling - which for many of us on here is a passion requires absolute concentration 100% of the time IMO

    Cheers Aslan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I was carrying too much speed as I crested the approach to the ford - applied sufficient braking to recover in time but heard the squeal of the tyres of my DRZ400 mounted friend riding close behind who almost tail gated me!
    That was a wicked fishtail Fred did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racing Dave View Post
    Hi all,

    As most know, the Yamaha Safari sent 140 riders through the Rainbow last Monday, after specifically warning them the night before of the history of the vital bend. I explained that this was an experiment in education, and that the exam was a practical one, to be held 12 hours later. No one crashed on THE corner....
    Thanks for the info Dave. While the lack of crashing doesnt help my case with the Station Manager the outcome is a bloody good one. Dispite this (exelent) outcome I still intend on talking to the Station Manager about modifying the bushes in the near future. I reitterate to all that the final decision is his, whatever he decides.

    Cheers R
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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    That was a wicked fishtail Fred did
    +1 I think the ham shifted & put him of balance

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