New Buell, or what?

[Hitcher]

Can't imagine a device much better suited for it. I presume by now you're exploring the full, unrestricted Shiver?

Oh yes. Three engine maps to choose from, but it's hard to see why anything other than "sport" would ever be selected. I need to do a bit of work on my upperbody strength. Speeds in excess of 180kmh require a bit more hanging on that that necessary behind the screen on an FJR1300, one understands...

Having a few more revs than 6,000 resulted in a much brisker run up the Watertower Hill Road than was achieved on the previous attempt.

I am becoming fascinated as to how the edges of my rear wheel are wearing.

[nico]

a guy a work has 1 mechanicly/practly it's good but dam ulgy and that clutch is loud he does cop alot of shit 2

[jrandom]

I am becoming fascinated as to how the edges of my rear wheel are wearing.

Will you come to a trackday now?

[Hitcher]

Will you come to a trackday now?

Do they have a Nanas Class?

[jrandom]

Do they have a Nanas Class?

Yes.

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Just Do It.

[Ocean1]

Do they have a Nanas Class?

What times on the Watertower hillclimb constitute nana pace?

And don't tell me you didn't time it.

[Hitcher]

What times on the Watertower hillclimb constitute nana pace?

And don't tell me you didn't time it.

Three minutes quicker than Mrs H. And no, I didn't time it.

[Winston001]

Great write-ups Ocean, enjoying your exploration so keep on with the quest. Naturally I'm curious as to where a Multistrada fits with the others particularly as I considered it before buying the ST4. However not many around, none in Southland to test ride plus........er......they have been struck rather severely with the ugly stick.

I've never ridden a Buell, a Super Duke, or a Shiver and one thing which interests me are the comparative rev range and torque. I say this because the ST4 surprised me with less torque at 3000 revs than expected and the motor really comes on song around 6000. From there through to 9000 is nirvana......

Plenty of torque from around 4500 so real world use just adapts around that.

Always thought twins of any ilk were low revving. My old Yam XS650 was and the R80 is - but great low torque.

[Ocean1]

I've never ridden a Buell, a Super Duke, or a Shiver

Seems likely a couple of phone calls might fix that.

and one thing which interests me are the comparative rev range and torque.

The claimed numbers ain't hard to find, but briefly the Buell's the odd one out, there. Very long stroke limits revs to 7k. The advantage is torque, bucket loads, from a tad over 2k. The Shiver revs way higher, and yet manages to be quite useful from 3k and doesn't misbehave burbling along at just off idle. The KTM's 990 makes lotsa hp but it's a pain in the arse unless you've got it under load. Don't know about the Multistrada, likely to be closer to the KTM than the other two, I'll let you know eh?

the ST4 surprised me with less torque at 3000 revs than expected and the motor really comes on song around 6000. Always thought twins of any ilk were low revving. My old Yam XS650 was and the R80 is - but great low torque.

I wouldn't get all tied up in numerical comparisons... leme put it this way: If you'd never seen an XB12 before and I made the tacho tell porkies to put the red line at 11k and called it an 800 most people would be well impressed. The quest for hp/cc is largely a sales device, and it often produces engines that are not easy to use.

[Big Dave]

shortshifters r us.

The attraction is partly not having to enter the disqualifiaction zone to keep the vehicle in its happy spot.

[jrandom]

Don't know about the Multistrada, likely to be closer to the KTM than the other two, I'll let you know eh?

The 1000DS motor pops, coughs, gags and lugs under 4,000rpm, and then from there to redline, it's as sweet and revvy as a sweet revvy thing.

I can't comment on the 1100, though, which is presumably what you'd be test-riding.

[jrandom]

Very long stroke limits revs to 7k. The advantage is torque, bucket loads, from a tad over 2k.

Speaking from the perspective of my sub-100hp aircooled IL4 1400, I must say that I think the torque claims about the Buell 1200 are a little overblown. The one I rode could best be described as 'solid enough, but rather wheezy'. Certainly not any sort of tarmac-tearing monster.

I honestly don't see the attraction in the XB12. I felt that the handling would be more likely to slow it down (and/or send it into a ditch) than speed it up, and that the engine was quite unsuited to a sportbike. It pops and bangs like a cruiser, then you get a reasonable shove that lasts for a couple thousand rpm, and then, woops, redline.

Perhaps I need to ride another one sometime to clarify matters.

I do look forward to taking an 1125R out for a spin when I get my road licence back. I wonder if it'll tempt me?

[James Deuce]

Thinking Laterally, and you'd probably need to coincide this idea with a trip to Auckland, but how about a BMW F650 or F800GS? Both of them are twin cylinder 800s btw, it's just that BMW are mental and think chicks won't be as threatened by the 650 number. Silly BMW.

Anyhoo, the 650 (800 you morons!) gets very good feedback from "sensible" people as a "do anything" motorcycle, without being an SV650 or Kawasaki Versys. Mind you, there's another thought.....

[Ocean1]

The 1000DS motor pops, coughs, gags and lugs under 4,000rpm, and then from there to redline, it's as sweet and revvy as a sweet revvy thing.

The quest for hp/cc is largely a sales device, and it often produces engines that are not easy to use.

Speaking from the perspective of my sub-100hp aircooled IL4 1400, I must say that I think the torque claims about the Buell 1200 are a little overblown. The one I rode could best be described as 'solid enough, but rather wheezy'. Certainly not any sort of tarmac-tearing monster.

In a straight line there's not much between my bike and a GSX1400.
But to be honest, straight lines ain't where it's at, dude. And the Buell's just more fun on the bent stuff, trust me.

I honestly don't see the attraction in the XB12. I felt that the handling would be more likely to slow it down (and/or send it into a ditch) than speed it up, and that the engine was quite unsuited to a sportbike. It pops and bangs like a cruiser, then you get a reasonable shove that lasts for a couple thousand rpm, and then, woops, redline.

A large number of people dissagree with you.

Personally, I wouldn't be so rude.

It's just, well, yer wrong is all.

[Ocean1]

Thinking Laterally, and you'd probably need to coincide this idea with a trip to Auckland, but how about a BMW F650 or F800GS? Both of them are twin cylinder 800s btw, it's just that BMW are mental and think chicks won't be as threatened by the 650 number. Silly BMW.

Anyhoo, the 650 (800 you morons!) gets very good feedback from "sensible" people as a "do anything" motorcycle, without being an SV650 or Kawasaki Versys. Mind you, there's another thought.....

The couple of wee rides I've had on BMWs haven't really inspired me to look much further. Will check 'em out, though.

...Does that mean the K1000R is, in fact, a 1300?