Shiver in Ngaio

[davebullet]

Hi Hitcher,

What warranty do you get with the Shiver - usual 2 years, unlimited kms?
What is the service interval?

I've heard longer legged riders find the position a little more comfortable on the Shiver rather than Striple.

I think I'll need to test ride both now to decide which I should get...

[Hitcher]

What warranty do you get with the Shiver - usual 2 years, unlimited kms?

Yes indeed.

What is the service interval?

20,000km for everything other than oil and filter at 10,000km.

[Pwalo]

20,000km for everything other than oil and filter at 10,000km.

Come on, I bet you don't leave an oil change till 10k.

[Clivoris]

Hi H.
Have been hearing about your adventures and it's great to read that this new romance hasn't lost any of its first flush. Gotta love the sit-up Apes and I think I will be following your lead with the heated handgrips when the funds become available.

[Hitcher]

Come on, I bet you don't leave an oil change till 10k.

I did with my FJR. If that's what the manufacturer says, then that's what I'll do. It's an oil change once every four months, which is better than a lot of bikes get!

[davebullet]

I think engineers would like you to change oil more often than the marketeers will let them advertise. I mean if I bike said change the oil every 3,000kms, then that would put people off purchasing.

I personally change the oil when it changes colour. My 230,000km Honda car motor runs beautifully and gets an oil and filter change every 5,000kms. Maybe it would run just as beautifully at 10,000km intervals.... Anyway, who doesn't admire a nice clean oil to look at in an engine. (Pity the oil in the motorbike is so dark).

david.

[Ocean1]

I think engineers would like you to change oil more often than the marketeers will let them advertise. I mean if I bike said change the oil every 3,000kms, then that would put people off purchasing.

Other way around if anything. Imposing a slightly ott post-purchase maintenance routine doesn't affect sales much, and specifying shortish oil change cycles mean more regular contact with the dealership, more parts and accessory sales. Also, from the principal's point of view why not err on the safe side, that increased dealer contact minimises warrantee claims.

I personally change the oil when it changes colour. My 230,000km Honda car motor runs beautifully and gets an oil and filter change every 5,000kms. Maybe it would run just as beautifully at 10,000km intervals.... Anyway, who doesn't admire a nice clean oil to look at in an engine. (Pity the oil in the motorbike is so dark).

david.

The colour change is simply a build up of carbon, combustion products finding their way past the rings, it affects the lubrication qualities of the oil not a jot. The only concession I make to “improvements” on the recommended lube schedule is to change the filters every time, whatever the book says.

[Hitcher]

Shiver now has its flyscreen fitted. A genuine Aprilia ex-UK in almost exactly two weeks.

[Madness]

Shiver now has its flyscreen fitted. A genuine Aprilia ex-UK in almost exactly two weeks.

I look forward to the pictures.

The Dorsoduro looks interesting. The Pikes Peak result is impressive for it's 750cc capacity and it's a nice price compared to the bigger Ducati that looks pretty similar.

[pritch]

I have a raffle ticket in an Aprilia Shiver.

Or a ZX14, or a Hyabusa, or a KTM 690 Duke, or a Triumph Tiger.
Or seven or eight other bikes, winner gets to choose one.
See a Ulysses member.

Also I heard on Hauraki yesterday that they are giving away a Harley Sportster 883. Not my normal taste but if it was free I'd find room in the garage.

I know... Well, nearly.

[Dazza]

Bring on the 1200 Shiver I say, nice wheels by the way

[vifferman]

The colour change is simply a build up of carbon, combustion products finding their way past the rings, it affects the lubrication qualities of the oil not a jot.

I thought the combustion products resulted in a build up of acids and other nasties that didn't do the alloys etc in the engine any favours? That's what they say.

Shiver now has its flyscreen fitted.

So, how many flies (and other random insects, of course) have you caught with it so far?

[Hitcher]

So, how many flies (and other random insects, of course) have you caught with it so far?

A multitude. It is festooned with dead lepidoptera as a consequence of a twilight return from Featherston last evening.

[Colapop]

The MANA 850 looks pretty interesting. Electronic choice of Automatic, Semi automatic or Manual.LINKY TO PIC
Sorry couldn't embed a pic...

[Ocean1]

I thought the combustion products resulted in a build up of acids and other nasties that didn't do the alloys etc in the engine any favours? That's what they say.

Free carbon can combine with water, particularly at high temperatures, (live steam), to produce carbonic acid, highly corrosive to most metals. Not much of that carbon's "free" though, and I prefer to keep water out of my crankcase. I've really only ever seen evidence of that type of damage in certain types of marine engines. And steam systems.

The main nasties are significantly more sizeable, and orta be dealt with by an effective filter. One of the reasons why oil changes are more regular on bikes than cars is the size of the reserve. Particularly on comp dirt bikes designers like to manage mass by minimising oil volume. That's got consequences in terms of contaminant build up, and cooling.