Female officer beaten until unrecognisable by teen

**Timber020** · 27th January 2009, 14:11

Originally Posted by firefighter

Most of the crimms now already have guns, and as for the kids, well comeon they'd have to get one first, arming the cops is'nt giving the population the right to bear arms- that's how the yank kids get them.....it's just giving our crimms a real reason to reconsider fucking with our cops, and maybe instill a little respect and fear- which can't be a bad thing.

Maybe you have spent to much time in the mindless animal, having superior firepower available is a great tactic if your navy, airforce or army but its not how you keep society or cops safe.
50% of cops in the US are shot with there own sidearm, Guns make up 49% of police fatalities in the US. Do the math, try not to let your neck get to red.

**balans** · 27th January 2009, 14:17

It seems like every couple of days there is an incident like this happening in NZ at the moment. I suspect media hype has something to do with it, but there must be something for the media to hype up the first place.

The police have a very tough job to do, whether this is due to a lack of frontline resources, misplaced resources or the 'decay of modern society' is a matter for analysis and debate. I suspect that there is more than one factor involved. Unfortunately analysis and debate probably means some very expensive and inefficient committee that comes to no effective conclusion. A case of democracy in in-action!

This sounds like the case with tazers being potentially bad for the criminals heart as the reason they aren't in common use mentioned in earlier in this thread.

I don't care if they are dangerous, I'm never going to be tazed. Why? well the cops have no reason to chase and taze me, ever! If I do inadvertently find myself in a mistaken identity situation, my body language, dress, demeanour, compliance etc will be clear to even the stuipidest officer that I am not a threat that needs to be subdued with high voltage. Surely this is true for you too?

In theory I suspect the officer involved should have backed off and waited for back up. As they disturbed the shitbag having a post crimespree shower, it is fair to assume that they knew his name and address?

However I think she needs some credit for her courage She probably thought back up was too far away (non existent?), and any follow up unlikely to be effective due to other more pressing issues arising and using up the under resourced police forces immediate attention.

I hope that this incident means he will now get as fu**ed over as possible by the judge, rather than the slap on the wrist he would have probably got otherwise.

Unfortunately this probably won't be the last time he will break the law.

**noobi** · 27th January 2009, 14:29

Ok I cant be bothered reading the whole thread and ill just post my point
Im 5 foot fuk all, and 16 yo, when I was 14 I took down this prick who was twice the size of me, I kid you not this fucker is into all the body building protein shit, and only cuz i was fuking angry and got him with one good shot, got him down and i could have smashed the shit out of him
surprise is a great thing, and surprise and being ready to fight is normally a combination that most people trained or not are not ready to deal with straight away, and again being 16 im at school so I know that there are alot of 16 yo who could pass as 20, regularly buy alcohol on the weekends, get pissed and vandalise tha town, I wouldnt want to be near them, trained or not, I would run away. Im not a chicken but do like the way my face is at the moment

**laserracer** · 27th January 2009, 14:29

Yeah you would like to think they will throw the book at this little shit.. But as happens time and time again his lawyer will plead that he's got a drug problem , or he was abused as a child, or the devil made him do it, or some other peice of crap excuse, and they will send him away to the holiday camp with the rest of the lo life campers that we support, only to escape while out on a work party after 18months...... im with FIREFIGHTER shoot first ask questions later
in fact they should arm the police with machine guns so they can shoot whole packs of the bastards

**firefighter** · 27th January 2009, 14:35

Originally Posted by Timber020

Maybe you have spent to much time in the mindless animal

What?

Originally Posted by Timber020

50% of cops in the US are shot with there own sidearm, Guns make up 49% of police fatalities in the US. Do the math, try not to let your neck get to red.

have'nt seen those statistics, 50% of U.S cops shot with their own sidearm? Sounds a bit rediculous to me, more than 50% of cops have never been shot mate.....

Think about it.......even if what you meant to say was that 50% of cops shot were shot with their own sidearm- well sorry I don't buy it....where the hell did you hear/read that?

......and as for guns making up 49% of police fatalities, so? The yanks have the right to bear arms, I hav'nt said that we should be the same, all I suggest is that our cops be armed, not the whole nation.....I remember a police officer was killed here in N.Z not so long ago with a gun.....poor bastard didn't even have a gun to defend himself with.....

Neck being red? Why? because I have the balls to support a real laying down of the law, and harsh consequences for peoples actions?

I'm not racist, or suggesting free reign of arms to all, I just have a callous view towards crimminals and how the monkeys should be punished, as the current "ethical" system funnily enough is'nt working.......I don't see an issue with harshly punishing crimminals, if you take away someones rights, you relinquish your own.

**balans** · 27th January 2009, 14:41

Originally Posted by firefighter

I'm not racist, or suggesting free reign of arms to all, I just have a callous view towards crimminals and how the monkeys should be punished, as the current "ethical" system funnily enough is'nt working.......I don't see an issue with harshly punishing crimminals, if you take away someones rights, you relinquish your own.

I completely agree. The Golden rule should only apply to those of us that also comply. You decide to step out of reasonable society you deserve to be treated harshly, not pandered to.

**mister.koz** · 27th January 2009, 14:50

Originally Posted by firefighter

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Neck being red? Why? because I have the balls to support a real laying down of the law, and harsh consequences for peoples actions?

I'm not racist, or suggesting free reign of arms to all, I just have a callous view towards crimminals and how the monkeys should be punished, as the current "ethical" system funnily enough is'nt working.......I don't see an issue with harshly punishing crimminals, if you take away someones rights, you relinquish your own.

With you there mate.

Tazers not being introduced because of risk of heart attack... wtf next pepper spray not allowed because of unpleasant odor?

Violent crime is on the rise, why not empower those who are there to protect us to at least protect themselves.

Worst i have got is "Do you know how fast you were going back there mate" why? because i don't smoke P and go on rampages.

**Swoop** · 27th January 2009, 14:51

Originally Posted by Hitcher

So does the baying mob today want Police officers to be routinely armed?

Yes.
They should be equipped with two of them.

**imdying** · 27th January 2009, 14:58

Originally Posted by Timber020

Maybe you have spent to much time in the mindless animal, having superior firepower available is a great tactic if your navy, airforce or army but its not how you keep society or cops safe.
50% of cops in the US are shot with there own sidearm, Guns make up 49% of police fatalities in the US. Do the math, try not to let your neck get to red.

I wonder how difficult it would be to make a pistol that biometrically only repsonds to it's owner? Can't be that difficult.

**laserracer** · 27th January 2009, 15:00

Originally Posted by Swoop

Yes.
They should be equipped with two of them.

Yep a pistol and a shotgun

**mister.koz** · 27th January 2009, 15:07

Got to have a shottie, best way to take out the zombies.

**Duke girl** · 27th January 2009, 15:10

What a low life scum bag beating a female cop like that and all she was doing was her job. I hope his gets his well deserves once they throw the prick into the cells where he belongs. I would be surprised if she continues on working in the police force as that sure would have scarred her for life having that done to her. There seems to be more and more violence happening of late and NZ is starting to become and unsafe place to live.

**Mole_C** · 27th January 2009, 15:23

I just found out last night that this chick was one that i trained with. Hope she is alright, heals up and keeps with it.

As for the little shit bag, he is still a Juvie so sadly will probably get fuck all punishment. Bring back the rack or the cross for the cunts. I only hope that the dogs ripped the shit out of him or that her partner gets hold of him. He is a massive ex South African Cop and this cunt is lucky he didnt do this to her over there.