Female officer beaten until unrecognisable by teen

[Patrick]

Sorry mate... green blinged you... bit like reinventing the wheel.

Wasn't me.... ???

[yod]

She probably thought she could. Her Super Woman suit was in the dry cleaners, so she was unable to stop speeding locomotives that day....

Perhaps she could do the job she was paid to do? She thought she could, but lost.

There is ALWYS someone better than you out there, no matter how good you think you are.

She probably thought, "Hey, he is a skinny naked 16 year old... I can sort that!"

So what you're saying is, she probably thought she could.

yep, i think that might be a blindingly safe assumption to make

[ital916]

shouldn't a properly trained police officer be able to deal with an unarmed naked 16yr old?

I just skipped to the end so I hope this point is a redo but a little problem I think with the police force *and dont get to ruffled if this callous* is the different entry standards for men and women. All officers need to be equally capable and equally tough. Some officers I have seen *men and women* wouldnt have a shit show of controlling a violent situation.

Now there could be many factors as too how she was beaten up. One thing though 90% of street fights go to the ground and if your on bottom, it is difficult to recover. He could have surprised her, been amped on drugs, or just fucking surging on adrenaline and survival instinct.

If I was a fellow police officer I would have found the boy and beaten the living shit out of him, but police officers need control in the face of adversity and a calm demenour. So I guess I wont be joining haha

[SARGE]

ive said it before....


fight's over

[Patrick]

So what you're saying is, she probably thought she could.

yep, i think that might be a blindingly safe assumption to make

The opposite of the blindingly wrong assumption that you made....

[Patrick]

shouldn't a properly trained police officer be able to deal with an unarmed naked 16yr old?

yeah, maybe she panicked or froze? who knows....

if he was that scary I'd either be bashing him in the gnads with the plodstick or waiting for backup

oh sorry, are we playing "My Dad's bigger than your Dad"?

I'd like to see you take on my 3rd dan Hapkido black belt mate from down the road, but that's also completely irrelevant

but i digress and you missed the point

here, read it again

shouldn't a properly trained police officer be able to deal with an unarmed naked 16yr old?

in other words, if she is properly trained, then perhaps being a police officer isn't the vocation for her...given that she clearly couldnt deal with the situation...

i would suggest she'd had a damn sight more training than him

and she had a weapon

he had a towel

perhaps she should have followed from a distance

Yuo seem to think she was incapable, right from the onset.

[DMNTD:Me]

ive said it before....


fight's over

100% agreed but sadly the cops have to deal with a nanny state that doesn't 'allow' them to be as effective as sometimes required.

[yod]

Yuo seem to think she was incapable, right from the onset.

in this situation, yes.

she got her arse handed to her by a 16yr old. Is that evidence to suggest she was capable ?

[yod]

The opposite of the blindingly wrong assumption that you made....

wtf?

what assumption was that?

that she exercised poor judgement about whether she could handle the situation and the upshot was, she got the shit kicked out of her?

if that's incorrect then please explain why she got the shit kicked out of her, did she justr decide it might be fun to let the bad guy win for a change?

[Patrick]

in this situation, yes.

she got her arse handed to her by a 16yr old. Is that evidence to suggest she was capable ?

wtf?

what assumption was that?

that she exercised poor judgement about whether she could handle the situation and the upshot was, she got the shit kicked out of her?

if that's incorrect then please explain why she got the shit kicked out of her, did she justr decide it might be fun to let the bad guy win for a change?

Read your posts... as reproduced above in post 201. You "assumed" it..... What you dont seem to understand is...

1) There is always someone better than you, no matter how good you think you are... even a skinny 16 year old might be better with street smarts than one might think. You won't know until its too late......
2) The uniform is not a super suit.

Maybe this kid just got lucky with a single good hit then continued on when she was down? Tough guy taking on a chick. Tougher then, when laying in to her while she was down.

Sometimes when you think you can handle it, you can be wrong...

Do you follow... now?

EDIT - She was out there doing her part, as best as she could, and this is the support you show her.... She is in the wrong job, according to you......?

Put the boot into her while she is down... oh hang on... someones already done that.....

Very poor.....

[Edbear]

Read your posts... as reproduced above in post 201. You "assumed" it..... What you dont seem to understand is...

1) There is always someone better than you, no matter how good you think you are... even a skinny 16 year old might be better with street smarts than one might think. You won't know until its too late......
2) The uniform is not a super suit.

Maybe this kid just got lucky with a single good hit then continued on when she was down? Tough guy taking on a chick. Tougher then, when laying in to her while she was down.

Sometimes when you think you can handle it, you can be wrong...

Do you follow... now?

EDIT - She was out there doing her part, as best as she could, and this is the support you show her.... She is in the wrong job, according to you......?

Put the boot into her while she is down... oh hang on... someones already done that.....

Very poor.....

Hey! I've got an idea...! Why not wait until we know the facts of the matter before we make sweeping judgements...?

Oh, hang on... this is KB, eh...?

Personally I feel very sorry for the officer who was prepared to put her body and life on the line for the community. I know as well as anybody, the Police go through a specific training regimin, (sp!), and I do not know how this 16 year-old got the better of her. Regardless I consider him low-life who deserves no symapthy for what he's done, contrary to the female officer who deserves all the support she can get.

[Rodney007]

you guys a little bitches, stfu

[yod]

Sometimes when you think you can handle it, you can be wrong...

thank you

as i've said half a dozen times already, it would appear she thought she could handle it, she couldnt

it would appear you agree, glad we got that sorted.



let me make a wild stab in the dark here, you're a police officer? for some reason you seem to think i'm on a personal crusade against this woman, how about you put your personal bias aside for a millisecond and be objective

EDIT - She was out there doing her part, as best as she could, and this is the support you show her.... She is in the wrong job, according to you......?

Put the boot into her while she is down... oh hang on... someones already done that.....

whether she's 'trying hard' or 'doing her best' has got NOTHING to do with what i've said ffs

i never said she is in the wrong job, i said perhaps being a frontline police officer isn't the vocation for her

the circumstances of this situation would suggest there may be some validity to that proposition, ergo, it's a reasonable and logical proposition to make in my opinion

if you think the circumstances of this situation suggest something else then please, explain away

i'm not putting 'the boot' into her, you just choose to see it that way

it's no different to someone binning their bike constantly, i'd suggest that perhaps riding a bike isn't the thing for them, wouldnt you agree??

[peasea]

thank you

as i've said half a dozen times already, it would appear she thought she could handle it, she couldnt

it would appear you agree, glad we got that sorted.



let me make a wild stab in the dark here, you're a police officer? for some reason you seem to think i'm on a personal crusade against this woman, how about you put your personal bias aside for a millisecond and be objective



whether she's 'trying hard' or 'doing her best' has got NOTHING to do with what i've said ffs

i never said she is in the wrong job, i said perhaps being a frontline police officer isn't the vocation for her

the circumstances of this situation would suggest there may be some validity to that proposition, ergo, it's a reasonable and logical proposition to make in my opinion

if you think the circumstances of this situation suggest something else then please, explain away

i'm not putting 'the boot' into her, you just choose to see it that way

it's no different to someone binning their bike constantly, i'd suggest that perhaps riding a bike isn't the thing for them, wouldnt you agree??

I doubt that this female copper is the first copper to get a hiding and she won't be the last, it's a gamble you take when you don the blue uniform. If she is of slight build and the perp is a drug-fucked big'un then she really didn't stand a chance. I doubt she would have known if the dude was p'd up (if he was) and people can (and do) do nasty things on that shite. How long has she been in blue? How many other violent situations has she been involved with? We don't know the full story but on the face of it (no pun intended) the perp sounds like a pile of dung in desperate need of a bashing himself. I don't like cops but I don't bash the crap out of them either; she didn't deserve that. Keep an eye on the case, see what the perp gets by way of a sentence, we might have cause to throw some abuse at the judge.

I do agree that perhaps the 'force' might not be the best place for her and I'd be willing to bet she's thinking the same thing right now, which is a pity as losing someone who is prepared to tackle a thief is a damned shame. (Especially if it's YOUR house that's been robbed.) I'm also willing to bet he WAS p'd up and therein lies a major problem in NZ.

[SARGE]

100% agreed but sadly the cops have to deal with a nanny state that doesn't 'allow' them to be as effective as sometimes required.

sorry man.. if my ass is in a sling..


g'bye douchbag..