Farmer walks free after killing gang member

[ManDownUnder]

Someone find the poor bastard a job - he's been through enough...

[Headbanger]

Shooting gang members should be encouraged, whether they're standing over you for money, or just walking down the street. They're worth less than nothing, you shouldn't even have to bother calling the police, just metro refuse.

I like it.

[Mc TOOL]

A mans home is his castle and he is allowed to " use as much force as deemed nessessary at the time " to defend life and property . Nobody ( above ) has mentioned the crown prosecutor, A Mr Rob Ronayne and his assertations that the defendant INTENDED to murder , and that his actions were vengful and calculated and were motivated by anger and hatred of Mr Colliers race and perceived gang connections . I dunno how sea you en tea's like him can sleep at night , I geuss the problem is that he can . I would have thought that the prossecution would have been better off using facts rather than one mans opinion , a man who wasnt there , a man who wasnt recently hospitalised by other ( perceived ) gang members .(Oh yeah ! did any one see the doco on sky last night " I cant stop masturbating, )
I was once told by 2 lawyers and a detective ( father ,brother and an uncle ) If you ever find your self in a position where you need to shoot someone , shoot to kill , the last thing you need is the reciever of the bullet giving evidence against you.
I hope Mr Allen is suitably compensated

[imdying]

I'd imagine that short of totally wiping out a whole gang and all their prospects, hangers-on, associated chapters, affiliates, etc., and everyone who had knowledge of them, there's no way you'd ever be able to stop them. As long as there's even one or two left, they'll carry on.

That is exactly what I'm suggesting. I disagree with the last part though, they wouldn't have the balls.

/edit: So we're clear; including, but not limited to; Gang members, their families, their families families, any supports, affiliates, customers, anyone within a couple of degrees of separation. A mass cleansing of NZ society.

[Indiana_Jones]

"The 303 gauge bullet penetrated Mr Collier's upper right arm, went through the chest and out the side, fatally injuring his heart and lungs."

.303 - Killing cunts since 1889

-Indy

[Dooly]

what a medal and cash for not paying a contractor... hummm man was wanting payment..yet no firearm was founded in the person's vehicle

No for killing a shithead.

The story said 'ALLEGEDLY' owed Mr Collier's gang of workers money for tree pruning.

I think I know who'd I believe.

[MSTRS:Me]

That is exactly what I'm suggesting. I disagree with the last part though, they wouldn't have the balls.

/edit: So we're clear; including, but not limited to; Gang members, their families, their families families, any supports, affiliates, customers, anyone within a couple of degrees of separation. A mass cleansing of NZ society.

You are on the right track. Your 'solution' would also free up a lot of state houses, clearing the horrendous waiting list. Might even free up hospitals as well.
Oh...and no taxpayer funded tangis either. Pay for your own...

[Forest]

Sad to read that he has had to leave the valley.

The guy is a hero. Fuck the gangs.

[Dave Lobster]

Shooting gang members should be encouraged, whether they're standing over you for money, or just walking down the street. They're worth less than nothing, you shouldn't even have to bother calling the police, just metro refuse.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to imdying again.

[98tls]

Nice to see the justice system get it right,almost be worth buying a remote block of land and waiting..and waiting..and waiting.

[Max Preload]

Nice to see the justice system get it right,almost be worth buying a remote block of land and inviting..and waiting..and waiting.

There you go. All fixed up for you!

[gammaguy]

as far as i know,it is quite legal to defend yourself or your property against attack in this country.

of course the degree of self defence is always left open to debate,and this is the problem.

I live on a rural property and my nearest neighbor is 2km away.

i have a firearm available,and would have absolutely no hesitation in using it to defend myself,my property or anyone who happened to be here at the time.

i would try for a disabling shot first,but if they were armed and refused to yield,i would finish them off.

i have a lot of friends around here,and they all feel the same way.

i hope it never comes to that,but im ready......and im a bloody good shot.

[TLDV8]

"The 303 gauge bullet penetrated Mr Collier's upper right arm, went through the chest and out the side, fatally injuring his heart and lungs."

.303 - Killing cunts since 1889

-Indy

You forgot to mention the side on shot was fired some 3.5 metres away (very close) and from a landing with no witness's.
I could care less about the gang member but am willing to bet in the heat of the moment things were a little different to what was told in court.

Bit like the other thread i just read where a middle aged man chased someone for close to a quarter mile and they fall on the knife.
You would have plenty of time to think about what you are doing in that case,you take your chances,the rest is up to the jury.
In these cases you win some,you lose some,no different to the guy who fired a "warning shot" horizontally in the dark not knowing what he might hit.

Either way all of their lives are !@#$ed up one way or another.

[Indiana_Jones]

In these cases you win some,you lose some,no different to the guy who fired a "warning shot" horizontally in the dark not knowing what he might hit.

Either way all of their lives are !@#$ed up one way or another.

Fire one into him, then a warning shot.

-Indy

[Fatjim]

as far as i know,it is quite legal to defend yourself or your property against attack in this country.

of course the degree of self defence is always left open to debate,and this is the problem

i have a firearm available,and would have absolutely no hesitation in using it to defend myself,my property or anyone who happened to be here at the time.

I'm guessing you don't have a firearms license as you appear to not know that you cannot legally use a firearm under any circumstances to defend yourself in NZ.
And if you don't have a firearms license, and you're not the owner of the gun ("firearm available" rather than "I own a gun"), then the owner of the gun is going to be in a whole pile of shit if you point that thing at anybody.