How do we ban gangs?

[MadDuck]

Shoot them in the face............

have you had a change of occupation? Whats wrong with burning down their "headquarters"?

[firefighter]

have you had a change of occupation? Whats wrong with burning down their "headquarters"?

No, I stick with shooting them in the face

They will just move, retaliate, and angry callous pricks like me will have to put out the fire, make our way through their booby trapped HQ's overhauling etc.
Just shoot them in the face.

[enigma51]

With a rifle!!!!!!!!

[peasea]

"Notorious felon". I like the sound of that.

Me too, where do we sign up? "Peasea, not a riotous fella" oh no, hang on, I misread the line.

[cowpoos]

Reading Vifferman's posts on the farmer being acquitted of manslaughter thread, made me wonder what ideas there are to ban or at least control criminal gangs.

Any thoughts?

easy....round them all up...give them all guns and ammo...let them go for it...and shot the last one standing!!

[fatzx10r]

make it legal to shoot them.... i'll get rid of them

[peasea]

You can't ban gangs. or you end up banning Ulysses or the RSA.

But you can enforce the existing laws. Which the police are strangely reluctant to use where gangs are concerned.

And a government that was SERIOUS about crime could do a lot more

A very good start would be to reintroduce the old concept of "notorious felon". Basically this enables a judge to say "You are one bad troublemaking cunt. Henceforth you are classed as a notorious felon"

Those so classed are automatically prohibited from consorting. And the police need no search warrant to search a property or vehicle belonging to a notorious felon, or one used or habituated by one. Or to intercept their phone calls or mail, or search their bank accounts. Nor may a NF be a director of a company. And a raft of other restrictions.

And a condition of every bail and parole is that the person may not consort with any notorious felon.

That would very quickly cut them down to size. There are no civil liberty issues in this (and if I say so you may believe it). A person is only declared a NF when they been found guilty of repeated serious crimes. So they have no right to expect the same liberty as an honest man.

Politicians blather on and make up new laws, the cops might bin some gangsters but what really matters is what size balls the judge who sentences the dirtbags has. Even if they do get any time in jail they come out looking like heroes to their mates and make mockery of the whole thing anyway. Even on bail, (parole, whatever) like that Bailey Kurariki (sp?) wanker, they carry on as if nothing has happened. I don't know if he's a gang member and I really don't care; it's the mentality.

Are all motorcycle clubs gangs? (Ulysses was a good example, there are plenty.) How do you weed out the baddies? If a guy in a hot rod club gets busted with a p-lab in his garage are all hot rodders p-heads? Boy racers?

One of the big problems is that successive governments, police commissioners and judges (over decades) have let the 'gangs' grow to a point where it's going to be very difficult, time consuming and expensive to reduce thei numbers and without trying to sound too negative you will never fully eradicate them.

Watch 'Gangs of New York'...........

[firefighter]

Are all motorcycle clubs gangs? (Ulysses was a good example, there are plenty.) How do you weed out the baddies? If a guy in a hot rod club gets busted with a p-lab in his garage are all hot rodders p-heads? Boy racers?

Bullshit, your over thinking it.

We know who the fucken gangs are, this is the kind of thinking which did away with capital punishment.

Shoot them in the face.

[peasea]

Bullshit, your over thinking it.

We know who the fucken gangs are, this is the kind of thinking which did away with capital punishment.

Shoot them in the face.

I know, let's form a gang (armed to the teeth) and go out and shoot the gangs? Brill.

I do love the vigilante in you though, so kiwi.

Can I have their bikes?

[Mikkel]

Before we get too excited by the prospect of banning gangs, what exactly is a "gang" so we know what it is we're banning?

A gang is a collection of people with a common interest not shared by the majority of the population. Riding motorcycles and drinking beer to give a couple of examples...


I don't know of a place that has no gangs at all, not saying that there aren't any, so I wouldn't presume to know what to do. The places with the least amount of gang related violence are usually the places where one gang is dominant and most people just plays along (e.g. southern Italy) - but that's hardly a solution.

[firefighter]

I know, let's form a gang (armed to the teeth) and go out and shoot the gangs? Brill.

I do love the vigilante in you though, so kiwi.

Can I have their bikes?

Lol, I mean the cops can shoot them in the face, but whatever you would prefer.....lol. (or I might end up next-door off-loading there....)

Oh yeah and yes you can have their bikes, as long as you earn it and shoot them in the face.

[MSTRS:Me]

Shoot them in the face.

Whilst I can appreciate your reasoning (sound, too BTW) it would be a terrible crime to do that. Just think of all those beautiful examples of traditional (applied using the centuries-old traditional method) moko being destroyed...

[MSTRS:Me]

Can I have their bikes?

Only if their owners don't want them back...

[peasea]

Lol, I mean the cops can shoot them in the face, but whatever you would prefer.....lol. (or I might end up next-door off-loading there....)

Oh yeah and yes you can have their bikes, as long as you earn it and shoot them in the face.

With a gun or my penis?

[peasea]

A gang is a collection of people with a common interest not shared by the majority of the population. Riding motorcycles and drinking beer to give a couple of examples...


I don't know of a place that has no gangs at all, not saying that there aren't any, so I wouldn't presume to know what to do. The places with the least amount of gang related violence are usually the places where one gang is dominant and most people just plays along (e.g. southern Italy) - but that's hardly a solution.

What about re-instating Hitler's solution?