My mate binned with no jacket = hospital ! (Rules for pillions)

[Cajun]

many riders have no idea how there pillions act.

I know of one rider/pillion combo, who the pillion (who has never riden a bike, but has been pillion for many years), rider has been riding for 15+ years that uses foot pressure thru corners.

Rider and pillion after been told this is incorrort by a number of different people still think doing nothing wrong and continue doing this.

[klingon]

In addition to behaving like a sack of spuds (I am quite accomplished at that ) I would suggest that the pillion should look through the corner, just as the rider does. This tends to give them something to focus on and helps line their body up with the rider's.

I also think it depends on the bike. On a big, comfy cruiser (or on my partner's big, comfy scooter) where the passenger is kind of wedged in, then they really can just sit like a sack of spuds.

On the other hand when I'm a pillion on the SV1000S with its small pillion seat, perched high above the rider, I have to be a bit more "involved" in what's going on and prepare myself for braking, accelleration and cornering. I'm far more exhausted after a pillion ride on the SV than I ever would be riding the same distance on my own bike.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

In addition to behaving like a sack of spuds .

No comment... thats to easy

[klingon]

No comment... thats to easy

Yeah. Pillions should be heavy and lumpy, and make good chips.

[Tank]

4.) If you are enjoying your ride, you are welcome to get involved - when we corner to the right, lightly grip the hand rail with your left hand, put your right hand on your right knee, poke your right knee out about 45 degrees - you may offer your right shoulder out toward the corner, unless I ask you not to. When we swap to a left corner, rinse-and-repeat but opposite for the left. Do it, and all other movements, in one continuous very smooth motion. If you don't want to, then that is perfectly ok - please just sit still and refer to rule number 2 if necessary.

Bloody hell - after running off and sulking for so long - the least we could have asked for was an intelligent post.

But no - still coming up with stupid, and even dangerous advise.

Didn't yo momma ever teach you - if you cant say something smart - just shut up and let the grown ups talk?

[Brownbikerbabe]

I remedied my pillion problem by getting a single seat on my bike...no more worrying about the pillion!

[davereid]

Maybe you should get some photos of his injurys and post in this thread to remind some of the idiots out there at the moment why you should wear all the gear all the time.

People ride without safety gear because they like it that way. You know, doing something a little dangerous just for pleasure.

Your argument sounds very much like....

Maybe we should publish pictures of people killed in motorcycle accidents to remind the idiots out there that they should sell the motor cycle and get a car.

Motorcycles are not practical transport, they cost more to run than a car, and are inherently unstable.

They offer no crash protection, and people ride them just for pleasure.

This costs us all extra ACC, clogs up our hospitals, and has no justification.

Clearly they should be banned.

[Zoolander]

try not to bump your helmet against mine, or my back.

look down at your crotch and think about crotches, and don't wriggle.

If you have to wriggle to get comfy, do it

If you are enjoying your ride, you are welcome to get involved

Do it, and all other movements, in one continuous very smooth motion

If I raise my hand in a "no no" motion, that means DONT DO that thing you just did.

Calm down guys, I don't actually think DB is talking about bikes here....

[carver]

Sit down... hang on....shut up....go where i go...i dont care if its scary to lean...your coming with me.

I can manage if they force themselves upright for the corner...its when they lean in with you then try stay upright that you get in the shit.

coming with you

cumming in you

[munterk6]

First rule of pillions is dont have one, second rule is refer to first rule

as above....I had a pillion (female) stand up and put arms out to fly like a bird once, needless to say she went off the back when I put a bit of throttle on.
I had no idea she was standing and lucky for her we were only doing about 60kmh. Her injuries were a VERY sore and bruised tail-bone and a sore ankle.
I DO NOT take passengers now, unless its an emergency.
It was a wake up call..imagine if she was killed or maimed, I would have to live with that every day!

[Maha]

as above....I had a pillion (female) stand up and put arms out to fly like a bird once, needless to say she went off the back when I put a bit of throttle on.
I had no idea she was standing and lucky for her we were only doing about 60kmh. Her injuries were a VERY sore and bruised tail-bone and a sore ankle.
I DO NOT take passengers now, unless its an emergency.
It was a wake up call..imagine if she was killed or maimed, I would have to live with that every day!

Holy crap!!
I understand you stance on pillioning with that story.
What the hell was she thinking?

I pillion alot, but Anne has been riding since the late 70's and at times, I check the mirrors to see if she still there, she is that good as a pillion. When I first started taking her on the back she would start to corner before I did, but we got that sorted. The reason she did that was, because when she is riding, she would dip in before I normally would (a different line in the corner) but like I said, that stopped after a few rides.

[Shadows]

I took my pillion seat off. If you want a ride get your own bike.

[Dooly]

First rule of pillions is dont have one, second rule is refer to first rule

Yup.
Took my pillon pegs off my bikes.
Put rear seat cowls on.
Told the missus, they dont come with them, bummer I can't take you..........

[Mrs Busa Pete]

People ride without safety gear because they like it that way. You know, doing something a little dangerous just for pleasure.

This costs us all extra ACC, clogs up our hospitals, and has no justification.
Clearly they should be banned.

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[samgab]

When I was 15 I was a pillion in a motorcycle crash.
Rider did a wheel stand all the way up a hill, reached the crest, weight lifted off the bike. Car pulled out of a driveway... Front of bike dropped down, rider tried to brake... Sand and water on the road surface. Front locked, and the bike dropped.
The rider, with leathers, slid away from the bike, down the hill, over a speed bump, Through the T intersection and away to the side.
I, without gloves, boots, or leathers, was dragged underneath the FZR750 all the way down the hill, over the speedbump, through the T, and stopped when the bike and I hit the kerb on the other side.
My hands and body acted like a buffer between the bike and the road, protecting the bike quite nicely.
Of course, my hands were stripped of skin, a bit like when you skin a rabbit. No skin on either of my hands or any fingers from the wrists down. Also the road ground my knee down to the kneecap (ooh, the kneecap is quite white!), and I could see the bone inside my little finger, right hand.

I was in hospital, in immense pain, for 2 months, and had pretty nurses wiping my arse and showering me the duration. Had to sit in baths of sterile water to loosen up the remaining shreds of dead skin so it could be cut off and so they could pick around in the raw flesh for little bits of gravel still embedded.
Several skin grafts later, all I have to show is some scars that are still there 16 years later, and my little finger and knee are still messed up.
There are lots of nerve endings in the finger tips, and if the skin gets ripped off them all, it's about the highest level of pain there is. And you don't pass out.

Morals of the story:
* Don't pillion with a hooligan.
* Wear quality leather gloves. Always.
* Wear protective gear. (The rider with the gear was entirely uninjured).

Be safe