This is a scan from 2006 Road Code for MB. I dont like the last picture. Isn't a supermarket entrance a driveway?
found online version here too. 8th picture down.
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...rsections.html
Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
This is a scan from 2006 Road Code for MB. I dont like the last picture. Isn't a supermarket entrance a driveway?
found online version here too. 8th picture down.
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...rsections.html
Certified mechanically retarded
The Loose Goose
I'm not sure, but I would think common sense would prevail in this instance - if one is turning in and one turning out, then it would be simpler for the one turning out to go first.
Most of the supermarkets here have give way signs at the exits so this situation is reversed. Annoys the hell out of me - I wave people to go if I am waiting to turn in, but find it's usually only older men who do the same to me - the young ones would still turn in front of me even if I had the right of way.
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Obey the hosebeast
The rules are still the same, be it driveway or road.Originally Posted by pixc
parting of the sensory
Our supermarket has two entrances - one on a majorish road, two lanes out, one in, and with a Stop sign on the exit - and one onto our street (one lane each way). People turning right into the one on our street never give way to people turning right going out. Not surprising really - they almost never give way at the t-intersection at the end of our road either. It's got no signs, and if I turn right out of it, and someone's turning in from my left, they invariably don't give way. Happened just yesterday, and I gave the culprit a blast on my (triple) horns. He looked surprised, "What? What did I do?". Pillock.
If I'd had a truck, a good ramming might've taught him some road rules and common courtesy. (Yes, ramming people to get their attention IS very courteous. Thanks for pointing that out).
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
sdkfz
http://www.safeas.govt.nz/smf/index....ge;topic=566.0
In light of the recent emphasis on road junction behaviour, our local Road Safety Coordinator has been using the uncontrolled intersection/roundabout page out of the Road Code in the newspaper recently.
He tells me he is amazed at the number of drivers who have phoned him up saying the info is not correct. The callers have particular issue with the supermarket exits where you are supposed to give way to traffic turning right out of the exit when you are turning right into the supermarket. Bearing in mind that this is copied straight out of the road code and has been in force for the last 20 odd years (?) and you see what a long way there is to go in NZ driver education!
Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.
Grumpy Old Bastard
You are right vifferman - VERY few people give way to those exiting a T intersection whether it is signposted or not. It is almost at the stage when the law is better ignored. Maybe it could change to suit general practice....of course that would make a mockery of the right hand rule or what's left of it....
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Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
Thanks pzkpfw.
I honestly had it wrong all these years. I still dont like it and I cant recall ever having any issues with this type of junction. So this applies to any driveway? Private or public?
Certified mechanically retarded
The pied piper
The whole right hand give way rule is a major stuff up and one that is hardly ever followed by vehicle users.
It is a dangerous rule that the government are aware off but are to frightened to fix.
By the way any area that is accessible by the public is classed as a road and governed by the road rules. It must have means of controlled access to stop the road code applying.
This is why uncontrolled car parks and beaches etc are governed by the rode code. This makes your supermarket car park a public road and therefore the entering and exiting is controlled by the rode code, be it right or wrong.
Easy Biker
Agreed, and I get annoyed with all the dickheads that try and drive around me when they should be giving way to their right.
Cheers
Merv
Pasta farts
My street is an uncontrolled intersection. Everyone treats it as a controlled intersection however, and it works. BUT in doing that it does make one complacent when coming in and out daily and I'm concerned that i'll get owned at some point by someone who IS legally in the right and decides to pull out anyway while i'm coming in.
Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
my common sense tells me person on the road goes in first. I have assummed for years that because vehicle turning in , she/he should go first to get out of flow of traffic. Could be holding up traffic behind him/her. Person coming out of driveway isnt in the flow of traffic.
So it appears i have failed common sense chip.
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Scooter boy
I agree I thought roads had right of way, obviously i have been doing it wrong. However most supermarkets have a giveway or stop sign meaning the traffic turning in has right of way.
Forum whore
dont worry pixc... i was the same. still am in certain cases. seems to though, that people exiting seem to think the vehicle on the road has right of way as well though. so maybe changing it would be a good idea.
Moped rider
Well in that case you will fit well with all others...
Hardcore Biker
It's not bloody rocket science! It's like when you big city folk lose a set of traffic lights. No-one has any fucking idea who to give way to! Arrgghhh!
(Admittedly in rush-hour it's a bit hard to give-way to your right when there's someone on everyone's right....)
60% of the time, it works everytime
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