New Green Party co-leader

[RantyDave]

Key is obviously having a honeymoon also, but it is a stronger honeymoon than any other Prime Minister has ever had. 64% rate his performance as strong and only 4% as weak!

John Key just listened when a bunch of people who knew what they were talking about told him a law was unworkable, retarded and wrong.

As for the green party? Fucked. It is about to pass from the hands of those who want to build something great into the hands of those who want to be in charge. On the other hand, if Ms Turei gets the gig we are in for a fun time at her expense:

"Metiria was elected to Parliament in 2002 after a colourful career spanning resource management law, anarcho-feminist performance, political internship with the ALCP and the McGillicuddies and unemployed rights activism."

That's their website - the most positive spin they could put on this silly bint's career. Surely the kind of woman to lead New Zealand in the 21st century.

Dave

Edit: Oh, and she's their spokesman on ICT. Right.

[Skyryder]

That's because the Greens, (world wide) are a bunch of watermelons, green on the outside but red on the inside.

Just what ya need on hot day and after long ride. A nice juicy greenie.

Skyryder

[Tank]

John Key just listened when a bunch of people who knew what they were talking about told him a law was unworkable, retarded and wrong.

He has dont a lot more than just that since being in power.

[Finn]

It would be interesting to see someone take the party to the Human rights council.

"Here I am - wanting to apply for the head of the party - yet the party have in advance said that the only person appointed to the role will be a woman"

It will never stack up in court. I mean by any stretch of the imagination is Sue Bradford a woman.

Try Animal Rights.

[Skyryder]

John Key just listened when a bunch of people who knew what they were talking about told him a law was unworkable, retarded and wrong.

As for the green party? Fucked. It is about to pass from the hands of those who want to build something great into the hands of those who want to be in charge. On the other hand, if Ms Turei gets the gig we are in for a fun time at her expense:

"Metiria was elected to Parliament in 2002 after a colourful career spanning resource management law, anarcho-feminist performance, political internship with the ALCP and the McGillicuddies and unemployed rights activism."

That's their website - the most positive spin they could put on this silly bint's career. Surely the kind of woman to lead New Zealand in the 21st century.

Dave

Edit: Oh, and she's their spokesman on ICT. Right.

I knows little about Turei but if Bradford wins the slot the Greens will go further left than Labour. Turei may be of much the same mould but on her I don't know. There is at the moment no party other than the Progressives who are to the left of Labour. With Anderton in his later years in Parliment it would make polictical sense for the Greens to position themselves to pick up Progressive voters who most will not vote for Labour under any circumstances.

While there are not many who vote Progressive there are a solid core of left wing voters who do not have a political party since Labour moved into Rogernomics.

Bradford may not be telegenic but she is an organiser of no mean ability.

I'm no fan of the Greens but I will give any politician credit where it is due and slag her at will..........but she makes the laws. From her background, to that, is no mean feat in itself.

Skyryder

[firefighter]

When you signed up for with the military you signed away your civiilan rights to look and dress as you pleased.

As for representing NZ that's a 'sticky' one. I would argue that you would have been as a member of the NZDF but I am open to persuasion on this.

Skyryder

Yes I did, that is not really my point though.....my point is that I believe that a politician should dress as a politician.... not as a teenager just dragged out of bed......
yes NZDF staff do represent N.Z....and it's staff are required to be groomed accordingly.....

Oh, and yes, I have been a member of two of the services....I don't however feel I need to prove that to you though....lets just say i've put in my yards.

[Skyryder]

Yes I did, that is not really my point though.....my point is that I believe that a politician should dress as a politician.... not as a teenager just dragged out of bed......
yes NZDF staff do represent N.Z....and it's staff are required to be groomed accordingly.....

Oh, and yes, I have been a member of two of the services....I don't however feel I need to prove that to you though....lets just say i've put in my yards.

On of the things that impresses me the most is not how a person dresses or for that matter look, but how they act. I've seen bikers act with more decorum than some buisness people. While we all, to some extent judge people on apprearence, as you get to know them be it personlly or through the media it's not how they look but what they say and do.

It was you who suggested the analogy as an ex member of the NZDF between yourself and Bradford.

So just how you have come to the conclusion that you don't feel the need to prove to me that you have been a member of two services I have no idea. But the fact that you have said that you have put in 'the hard yards' suggests to me that you do........otherwise why mention it??

Skyryder

[Brian d marge]

Seems that you are in the manority of people with a negative view of National at the moment.

From Kiwi blogs analysis of the TV3 Poll:

TV3 poll just out:
• National 60%
• Labour 27%
• Greens 7%

TV3 have never ever had a party so high before - it is unprecedented in recent decades. And remember this is the poll Labour claims is the most accurate. Now of course there is a honeymoon period, but this is like having a honeymoon with Angelia Jolie instead of Rosie O’Donnell.
A Parliament on this poll would have the Government with 80 seats and the Opposition with just 43.

Phil Goff refused to be interviewed for TV3 about the poll - something no other leader has done in the past decade. But here’s why - Preferred PM:
• John Key 52%
• Helen Clark 14%
• Phil Goff 4%

Key is obviously having a honeymoon also, but it is a stronger honeymoon than any other Prime Minister has ever had. 64% rate his performance as strong and only 4% as weak! Considering the deep economic crisis we are in, that is astonishing.

His personal attributes have also shot up - 85% now rate Key as a capable leader.

but thats like asking people who like chocolate , are they happy with chocolate ......

the answers yes ...

but behind the scenes :

student loan interest rate is going up a tad

A report has been released that under the proposed new tax cuts , the working family will be worse off ( heard that on national radio today so not sure of details yet)

Equal pay in the state sector has been shitcanned

Brownlee is meddling with the electricity because of a report by the business rountable ( under a new name )

the internet bill has been delayed not scrapped

DNA , can be taken from those who the police intend to charge ( 1st reading , Simon Powell has been busy )


Got that tub of lard ready ,,,,its GONNA hurt ........


Still they seem to be serious on crime ,,,, that's a plus


Stephen

[klingon]

... "Metiria was elected to Parliament in 2002 after a colourful career spanning resource management law, anarcho-feminist performance, political internship with the ALCP and the McGillicuddies and unemployed rights activism."...

It's all true.

... Metiria was a founding member of the Random Trollops performance art troupe. Like fellow Green MP Nandor Tanczos, she was a candidate for the McGillicuddy Serious Party in the 1993 election and for the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party in the 1996 election. When she was elected, Metiria left her job as a corporate lawyer for Simpson Grierson to become a Member of Parliament..

Let's just remember that:

a) Before the MMP electoral reforms there was really no point in standing for anything other than National or Labour. Which is precisely why the McGillicuddies were formed - to draw attention to how ridiculous the system was.

b) The average IQ of the group calling themselves the Random Trollops is likely to be about double the average IQ of the group calling themselves Kiwi Biker.

c) Somehow Metiria Turei had time to do all the things listed while studying law and raising her kids (yes she's married with kids).

Sounds like Superwoman to me! I wish I had half her energy!

[spudchucka]

From her background, to that, is no mean feat in itself.

Skyryder

Nobody has even ever voted for her, she just got there riding on the shirt tails of others, which sort of makes her the ultimate beneficiary.

[klingon]

Nobody has even ever voted for her, she just got there riding on the shirt tails of others, which sort of makes her the ultimate beneficiary.

We have a proportional representation system. That means each party gets a number of MPs based on the proportion of people who voted for that party. Party lists are announced way before an election, so people who vote for a party know exactly who they're voting for.

[Skyryder]

Nobody has even ever voted for her, she just got there riding on the shirt tails of others, which sort of makes her the ultimate beneficiary.

You sort of miss the point. Bradford was voted to stand on the party list so some must have voted for her. The party accords list ranking on those members who decide to stand on who the party thinks will be the most effective in Parliment and by default the general population vote on that basis be they aware of this or not. In comparison to Key Bradford does not compare, as far as the public is concerned or anywhere near. But then Bradford has not been caught out lying to the NZ public has Key has so I ask you who would you trust the most, not the policies but trust of the person. For me the answer is simple. Those that lie and get caught are not to be trusted. Ask any copper.

Skyryder

[Marmoot]

I wonder if the days of the Green party are on the wane?

What with the sobering effects of global recession and all, and they don't seem so fashionable nowadays.

Indeed it could be argued that of recent years the Green party has been less concerned with actual eco-issues than with general loony left social engineering.

You're kidding yourself. The general population has the combined memory that fits into an early model USB stick.

[Pixie]

I wonder if the days of the Green party are on the wane?

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If it is (and I live in hope ) they'll probably blame the wane on global warming.

[spudchucka]

We have a proportional representation system. That means each party gets a number of MPs based on the proportion of people who voted for that party. Party lists are announced way before an election, so people who vote for a party know exactly who they're voting for.

The fact that the Green party puts such whackos on their list indicates the general nature of those they are wanting to get to vote for them.

Example: Pot smokers, disaffected youth, life time beneficiaries, hippies, extreme feminists, communists, limp wristed hand wringing socialists, professional protesters and the occasional genuine environmentalist just to keep the face of the organisation from showing its true colours.