Oh good one Key: saving jobs - Bullshit

**MisterD** · 26th February 2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by Skyryder

He lost money. Not much to learn from that and then lied. Most never learned from that either.

Come on, you can't have it both ways. He can't be a scheming b'stard who cynically abused his position to make money on transrail shares and a muppet who couldn't make money on the markets to save himself...

**piston broke** · 26th February 2009, 18:16

i can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
but i believe that the original contract was let to an ausi company,they then employed a kiwi company to make the gear,ausi company still has the contract.
as for the muldoon comment,even if he did put nz into debt,at least he kept most of us in jobs,the same is needed now

**Lonebull** · 26th February 2009, 18:21

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Swazzi a NZcompany losses a two mill contract from the NZ Army to China.

Another 'talkfest' on saving jobs starts tomorrow. What's the bet that the focus will be on tourism: Keys port folio.

Skyryder

I just don't know what the fuck is going on. Talk about inability to see the bigger picture. The Army saves money by taking it from social welfare. Swazi have made a big effort to stay onshore and now some bookworm in a uniform kicks them in the knads. So here's the big one for you whoever you are

**Fub@r** · 26th February 2009, 18:33

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Nope. She ain't the Government.

Please explain how Key is accountable for an australian companies decision LAST YEAR to obtain equipment from China rather than the current NZ supplier to fulfil its current contract with the NZ military?

The aussie company was the successful tenderer under a Labor administration.

**piston broke** · 26th February 2009, 18:43

Originally Posted by Fub@r

Please explain how Key is accountable for an australian companies decision LAST YEAR to obtain equipment from China rather than the current NZ supplier to fulfil its current contract with the NZ military?

The aussie company was the successful tenderer under a Labor administration.

you won't get an explination as the truth hurts

**Swoop** · 26th February 2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by pete376403

"I don't know"...

However you seem happy to see him as Saint John of Helensville (oh what an ironic name for his electorate

Extremely happy. A massive improvement over the "creature from the black latrine".

Originally Posted by Pixie

Labour would have probably contracted the the job of defending NZ to the Chinese.
Look at the pros:
Real guns
Jets
Nukulah deterent (maybe not so attractive to Labour and the Hippies)
Nice matching red tinge

What's the bet the uniforms arrive from china with nice tracking devices in them?? Bought anything from Kathmandhu stores recently?

The other drawback would be if we are defended by china, that would make us part of their "cartel"...
People do know about the Russians shooting and sinking a chinese ship which was delivering produce to their country recently, don't they???

**Skyryder** · 26th February 2009, 18:52

Originally Posted by Fub@r

Please explain how Key is accountable for an australian companies decision LAST YEAR to obtain equipment from China rather than the current NZ supplier to fulfil its current contract with the NZ military?

The aussie company was the successful tenderer under a Labor administration.

The NZ Army and our defence force are employed to protect NZ interests. Our MP's and politilal leaders are elected to represent our interests. As mentioned earlier in my posts I have not supported Labour in Free trade deals at the expense on NZ industy. My posts reflect that.

My original post is that Key talks the talk but does not walk the walk.

The government can change the laws and if necessary break contracts that have been agreed to by a previous government. I don't deny there would be repercussions because of this but if they had the will and fortitude this could hve been done and it may be cheaper than we;lfare handouts for those that may lose their jobs.

On a more pragmatic level I'm not sure that or Map or Key could have foreseen the backlash that this created. That Map knew of the change of supplier was evident of his interview in Close Up tonight.

At least Map has agreed to review the way contracts and the processes involve so that they 'can' do better in the future and he has said that He (Map) is gong to hold further talks with Yakka on this issue.

I take this as at least one of Keys Ministers holds a simular philosophy to NZ industry as myself.

Skyryder

**puddy** · 26th February 2009, 18:57

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Swazzi a NZcompany losses a two mill contract from the NZ Army to China.

Another 'talkfest' on saving jobs starts tomorrow. What's the bet that the focus will be on tourism: Keys port folio.

Skyryder

Get a job at the UN, or become a treaty negotiator, or the media.

**Skyryder** · 26th February 2009, 18:58

Originally Posted by MisterD

Come on, you can't have it both ways. He can't be a scheming b'stard who cynically abused his position to make money on transrail shares and a muppet who couldn't make money on the markets to save himself...

I think you have got it the wrong way round.

He 'lost' money on his Tranz Rail shares and made money on the market.

Skyryder

**T.W.R** · 26th February 2009, 19:01

the rich get richer & the poor get poorer

watchout third world here we come
just don't mention the rethink on tax cuts

The country will get reamed and key with toodle of to his multi million dollar holiday home in Hawaii

**Mully** · 26th February 2009, 19:10

Jesus Christ people, stop feeding the Troll.

**Finn** · 26th February 2009, 19:16

So let me get this straight SkyRyder... In the few months that National have been in Government, they managed to make Swazzi uncompetitive to a point they lost a small contract with the military. Riiiiiiight...

Then we have the compulsory government tendering process which came out late last year for this supply contract... when Liarbour were pissing about. Ooooookay...

For fuck sake pinko, give the guy a break. Clearly you're just pissed with life as a minority lefty.

**Skyryder** · 26th February 2009, 19:26

Originally Posted by Finn

So let me get this straight SkyRyder... In the few months that National have been in Government, they managed to make Swazzi uncompetitive to a point they lost a small contract with the military. Riiiiiiight...

Then we have the compulsory government tendering process which came out late last year for this supply contract... when Liarbour were pissing about. Ooooookay...

For fuck sake pinko, give the guy a break. Clearly you're just pissed with life as a minority lefty.

Nope I'm not the one who always threating to leave NZ.

Skyryder