So, a rozza enters my home...

**Pixie** · 20th February 2009, 09:16

Funny how they are so reticent about entering gang houses.

booook book book book

**scumdog** · 20th February 2009, 09:18

Originally Posted by Pixie

Funny how they are so reticent about entering gang houses.

booook book book book

Are they??

ARE they?

**Pixie** · 20th February 2009, 09:40

Originally Posted by Oscar

Appalled at the number of arrogant macho fuckwits that are graduating Police College lately. I remember the day not so long ago when a cop was someone to be respected (and MOT Traffic Cops were the aforementioned arrogant fuckwits). I know there are still some of these hardworking and brave individuals still in the force, but I can't tell the difference between the and the ones who just see me as a source of $$$$$$$$$$$$.[/LIST]

Allow me to recount a conversation overheard recently:

Drongo 1: "How's your Police application going?"

Drongo 2: "They didn't like my 5 driving while disqualified convictions,so

they said to keep my nose clean for 18 months and I should be sweet"

Last time I looked contempt of court made you unsuitable to be a police officer.

**Patrick** · 20th February 2009, 10:32

Originally Posted by Pixie

Funny how they are so reticent about entering gang houses.

booook book book book

Bwahahahahaha....

What a load of bollocks.

You sit outside the Gang HQ 24/7???? If so, get a life, go for a motorbike ride......

Originally Posted by Pixie

Allow me to recount a conversation overheard recently:

Drongo 1: "How's your Police application going?"

Drongo 2: "They didn't like my 5 driving while disqualified convictions,so

they said to keep my nose clean for 18 months and I should be sweet"

Last time I looked contempt of court made you unsuitable to be a police officer.

Still does. Drongo Two is talking it up for his mate. Drongo two is fulla shite, and Drongo one is lapping it all up....

**scumdog** · 20th February 2009, 10:35

Originally Posted by Pixie

Allow me to recount a conversation overheard recently:

Drongo 1: "How's your Police application going?"

Drongo 2: "They didn't like my 5 driving while disqualified convictions,so

they said to keep my nose clean for 18 months and I should be sweet"

Last time I looked contempt of court made you unsuitable to be a police officer.

Maybe they were winding you up...or one was winding the other up...??..or you are winding us up???

**MIXONE** · 20th February 2009, 10:44

Originally Posted by scumdog

Maybe they were winding you up...or one was winding the other up...??..or you are winding us up???

Fuck there is a lot of clocks on kb!

**jafar** · 20th February 2009, 10:50

Originally Posted by MIXONE

Fuck there is a lot of cocks on kb!

That's better

**davereid** · 28th February 2009, 08:17

I guess it depends on how well you understand the rules !
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Top cop refuses breath test
Like everyone, he is entitled to, say lawyers
By EMILY WATT - The Dominion Post | Saturday, 28 February 2009

One of the country's top police officers has been cleared of wrongdoing for refusing to take a breath test after he was reported driving home erratically from a police bar.

Police say the man was "entitled" to refuse to comply with officers who knocked on his door.

Superintendent Graham Thomas, the head of police prosecutions at Police National Headquarters, has been cleared by a police investigation and is now on six months' paid "medical rehabilitation".

Criminal lawyers say everyone has a right to act within their legal rights. But many members of the public are convicted after being breathalysed in their homes, either because they believed they had to follow police demands or because they felt they should front up to their wrongdoing.

Some police spoken to by The Dominion Post said the officer, who is in charge of every drink-driving case in the country, ought to have fronted up.

Mr Thomas was reportedly visited after a member of the public reported erratic driving on a Friday night in December. A community patrol car went to his house and officers knocked on his door.

Police human resources manager Wayne Annan said the man, whom he would not identify, was asked to give a breath test at his home, but he declined "as he was entitled to do".

He reportedly told officers he had been home all night. Mr Thomas was not home when The Dominion Post visited yesterday, but a police-issue car was parked in his driveway. Police would not say if it was being driven on the night in question.

Mr Annan said police had completed the investigation and employment matters were concluded.

Drink-drive lawyer Chris Reid said that, although many members of the public had been convicted in similar circumstances, Mr Thomas was acting within the law.

"Morally, he should probably have done it, but legally, he didn't have to," Mr Reid said. "There's no doubt if someone knocked on my door and asked me to do a breath test, I would tell them to go to hell."

Lawyer Michael Bott said clients had been arrested for failing to provide a sample when police arrived at their house. "What concerns me is the double standard." But anyone who knew the law was entitled to apply it.

A spokesman for Police Minister Judith Collins said she would not comment on an employment issue.

Former police commissioner Peter Doone resigned in 2000 after controversy over whether he abused his power by getting out of a car and speaking to a rookie constable who stopped it on election night 1999. The car was being driven by his partner Robyn Johnstone after it was seen driving without headlights on, but the couple were allowed to drive away without being breath-tested.

A report by deputy commissioner Rob Robinson said Mr Doone should have insisted on "the full treatment for the driver to dispel any later suggestions of insobriety".

The State Services Commission last year cleared Commissioner Howard Broad of claims he avoided a breath test in 1992. When stopped, Mr Broad admitted he had been drinking with a meal and the officer told him to park and stop driving.

**tri boy** · 28th February 2009, 08:25

I guess this proves that this certain area of RBT enforcement is still very much a grey area legally.
Oh, just an update. One week from the day I first emailed the complaints authority, I had received their outcome to move it to the local traffic police dept. I'm still waiting for their follow up interview. Guess they are really busy..................

**spudchucka** · 28th February 2009, 09:07

Its not grey at all. Just read the legislation, which really makes it quite clear.

**Forest** · 28th February 2009, 09:17

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Its not grey at all. Just read the legislation, which really makes it quite clear.

Quite right. The Herald reporting makes this clear.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10559186

It is not an offence to refuse an initial breath-screening test. But a police officer can then require someone to take an evidential breath test. Refusing to take the second breath test is an offence.

**tri boy** · 28th February 2009, 09:50

I'm interested to know why the police didn't follow up on who was actually driving the car erratically, assuming it was an govt issued vechile, then there would be few people legally entiteled to drive it, and the processof illemination would be straight forward in my view.
Assuming the big chief didn't tell a porky (chuckle) pie to the constable.
Coppa's don't tell porkies (chuckle) do they?

**carver** · 28th February 2009, 11:26

some cops do, some dont.
from what i have seen they will lie to save themselves.

you cant trust the pigs

**Ocean1** · 28th February 2009, 11:52

Originally Posted by Forest

Quite right. The Herald reporting makes this clear.

Originally Posted by Harold

It is not an offence to refuse an initial breath-screening test. But a police officer can then require someone to take an evidential breath test. Refusing to take the second breath test is an offence.

It does. The Harold missed a quote from Chris Reid which appears in the Dom, though...

Originally Posted by Chris Reid

If a police officer knocks on your door, you do not have to give a breath or blood test and are entitled to ask them to leave the property. But if they follow you in "fresh persuit" and arrive directly after you, you are required to comply. If you refuse to give a blood test in a public place, you can be arrested for refusing to supply a sample, a serious offence. You can call a lawyer before giving a test and seek advice.

So it appears the dude was within his rights, as it seems unlikely the officers were on his tail up the driveway. It also appears that he's either terminally stupid or guilty as hell.