God save the queen her fascist regime.

**JacksColdSweat** · 28th February 2009, 19:04

Originally Posted by MisterD

Yeah, but we're not talking about an executive position, we're talking about a figurehead for the country. I don't want some f-ing politician in the role, I want the Irish model.

Hands up who wouldn't rather have had President Hilary, Te Kanawa or Meads than HRH the occupier of Buck House?

**Edit**

I just re-read that and googled "irish model" and I stand by my "I want..." statement

I think the pro-monarchy people would argue it's even more important to have the monarchy in that figurehead position for the reasons I listed above

Meads et al are all too narrow and inexperienced would be their call

They would probably say look at the American Republic now.... politicians hamstrung by greedy lobbyists and devoid of vision for 150 years now have started the fall of the American empire...

I'm putting words in their mouths here....

**Dave Lobster** · 28th February 2009, 19:08

Originally Posted by MisterD

Hands up who wouldn't rather have had President Hilary, Te Kanawa or Meads than HRH the occupier of Buck House?

Me.
HRH the Queen is by far the best person for the job. She is never up for re-election, is rich beyond our wildest dreams, and is therefore unbribable. All decisions she makes (and should be making, instead of that one eyed scottish idiot) are done for the good of the country, rather than for the good of her career and continued governence.

Although I've never met (been presented to) the Queen, in the course of my career working for her, I have been in the vicinity of several of the Royal family. I've also met various politicians that are alleged to serve the (former) United Kingdom. I know who'd I'd rather work for. I also know a lot of people (me included) that stopped working for her when the rabble won in 1997.

**Winston001** · 28th February 2009, 19:41

Originally Posted by JacksColdSweat

Skyryder we don't have a constitution... so the step to a republic would also need that to be drafted and written and debated endlessly

Actually this is a common misconception, but know what you mean. Our constitution is made up of laws, rules and conventions governing Parliament, the Crown (including the GG), and the Courts.

Some of these - conventions, are unwritten and that's confusing for most people. One example is Ministers of the Crown tender their resignation when something bad happens in their department. That is not written down anywhere. The argument is how "bad" does it have to be for resignation. That's ultimately up to the Prime Minister but arguably the GG could withdraw a ministerial warrant.

The problem with a Constitution as a single one-size=fits-all-situations document is lack of flexibility. We then have whole court systems devoted to constitutional arguments and special case exceptions. Have a look at the USA. The average American thinks their Constitution protects them but in fact its a huge problem because it was written 200 years ago and doesn't address the complexity of the modern world.

England, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand do not have the one-document-to-rule-them-all. Ask yourself, does the USA have a better civil society? Personally I like the place but have never felt quite safe there.

**McJim** · 28th February 2009, 19:49

Lets have a feudal system with martial law. I am King.

At least with a totalitarian dictatorship everyone pulls in the same direction for the benefit of the country without all that mindless squabbling about how much they paid for their election campaigns, who shoved a tennis ball in someone's gob and other such pointless drivel that is a waste of taxpayers money.

Who is with me?

**Ixion** · 28th February 2009, 19:52

You're from Glasgow, so you're disqualified.

**Big Dave** · 28th February 2009, 20:30

Great - a Jummy in charge. one half of the country wants to get pissed and the other half doesn't want to pay for it.

Hey! a universal law.

**McJim** · 28th February 2009, 20:41

Originally Posted by Ixion

You're from Glasgow, so you're disqualified.

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Great - a Jummy in charge. one half of the country wants to get pissed and the other half doesn't want to pay for it.

Hey! a universal law.

Great. Abuse.

I bet you're the kind of guys that would refuse to sell a kebab to a Glaswegian on account of his nationality!

bastards

**fire eyes** · 28th February 2009, 21:43

I was hoping to marry Prince William one day .. don't ruin my chances by cutting off his family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(ohh or was that Prince Charming .. hell I forget)

**Skyryder** · 28th February 2009, 21:49

Originally Posted by JacksColdSweat

EDIT: Skyryder we don't have a constitution... so the step to a republic would also need that to be drafted and written and debated endlessly

We have what is known as an unwrtitten one. Better known as case law.

Skyyrder

**Skyryder** · 28th February 2009, 21:53

Originally Posted by MisterD

Did a bang-up job with the EFA that your lot rammed through eh? That's the kind of thing that shows we need an upper house...

Do you have any idea of the role of the Govenor General? Like just smidgon of a clue??

Skyryder

**EatOrBeEaten** · 28th February 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by McJim

Great. Abuse.

I bet you're the kind of guys that would refuse to sell a kebab to a Glaswegian on account of his nationality!

bastards

Fuck the haters man, this site fears us Weegies.

**Skyryder** · 28th February 2009, 21:58

Originally Posted by EatOrBeEaten

Fuck the haters man, this site fears us Weegies.

So yayr a Scotish lassie ar' ye

Skyryder

**McJim** · 28th February 2009, 22:05

Originally Posted by EatOrBeEaten

Fuck the haters man, this site fears us Weegies.

That's only coz we're the only country in the Commonwealth with the balls to NOT have the Queen's heid on wur bank notes!

**Ixion** · 28th February 2009, 22:07

That's only because the Bank of England were smart enough to figure that if they put anyone's head on the banknotes, you'd spend all your time trying to head butt the money.