MotoTT Trackday, Friday 27th Feb 09

[sinfull]

Haha! gotta go home!
My brother got a SV back in France that we might take for a endurance race
I might stay if you lend me ride your bike tho hehe

You were looking good on Friday mate btw, I saw some nice overtaking when i was marshalling in the morning!!!

Thank you, and the temptation to lend the bike is there now ! Can't be having someone so lovely (and with such an obvious eye for talent) leaving our shores now can we !

[Dooly]

Last trackday in NZ for me, and that was a very awesome one!!!
I had time to rest from the waking up at 4.30am by marshalling in the morning, and the bike felt really good for the three sessions in the afternoon!

My first session was the third session for the people in group 3 so I was pretty much the slowest, trying to warm myself and the bike up...By my second session, i let it go more, lining more and building my speed a little bit more and by the third session, i was knee down in T1, T5, and the hair pin

My only annoying moment: trying to pass safely on corners that girl on a green ninja that is doing half my speed in corners, but she keep pushing her bike at high speeds on straight to brake hard just in front of me at the entrance of the corner..just pissed me off, whats the f.. point of doing that??? so she kept having me following her close for the whole time, which might be pretty annoying for her, and was for me ..

Thanks to Sue and Allan for making it possible for me to ride in the afternoon, Pete and Fynn for the drive down (i'm not gonna miss 'close your window and boil for half an hour' games tho, ah boys! lol), Noel for the trailer, and all the people of MotoTT for another smooth trackday!

And here, my best pic of the day (from the pics i saw for now..):

I followed you for a brief while and went past down the straight.
I thought at the time that you were riding very well, and I did note the knee down.

[discotex]

Nice riding discotex

Why thankyou

Nice riding dude, not that Im the expert but on the infield t3 try giving it a bunch more erbs, its a goody to get some ground on those in front

good stuff dude

Thanks for the tip mate. I feel slow through the 2-3-4 combo so I think you're right.

I find if I gas hard out of 2 or 3 I find myself coming into the next turn from the wrong angle. I think that's a result of not flicking the bike as quick as I should/can. The other part is not knowing how much lean I can get away with as I don't have a good knee-down leg position to get that as a gauge.

good vid disco.... nice pics Bill

Cheers

[Quasievil]

Why thankyou



Thanks for the tip mate. I feel slow through the 2-3-4 combo so I think you're right.

I find if I gas hard out of 2 or 3 I find myself coming into the next turn from the wrong angle. I think that's a result of not flicking the bike as quick as I should/can. The other part is not knowing how much lean I can get away with as I don't have a good knee-down leg position to get that as a gauge.



Cheers

Dont worry, just a little observation, practice = perfect and all that.

[Devil]

Why thankyou

Thanks for the tip mate. I feel slow through the 2-3-4 combo so I think you're right.

Cheers

As quasi mentioned, T2, 3 and 4 are a great place to gain on people because of exactly the problem you're having.

You need to enter T2 at a moderate speed, then go honking through 3 and 4.
If you go too hard into T2, you'll just screw the rest up. It's one of those you need to go slower to go faster bits. and yes, if you cant turn the bike quickly you'll never get through there at speed. On a sportsbike in particular, you can save a lot of time by learning to slam the bike on its side faster.

[discotex]

On a sportsbike in particular, you can save a lot of time by learning to slam the bike on its side faster.

Yep totally agree and can feel it's costing me time through there. I normally counter-steer much harder but without having the correct knee-down posture sorted I'm wary of slamming it down past the edge of the tyre.

Figured out why my knee isn't out poking out properly yesterday (foot angle on the peg) so next time should be more confident to chuck it around. It's not like the 600rr has a lack of turning ability

[Morcs]

Yep totally agree and can feel it's costing me time through there. I normally counter-steer much harder but without having the correct knee-down posture sorted I'm wary of slamming it down past the edge of the tyre.

Figured out why my knee isn't out poking out properly yesterday (foot angle on the peg) so next time should be more confident to chuck it around. It's not like the 600rr has a lack of turning ability

Forget conscious counter steering, just man-handle it over it onto its side, much quicker

[Devil]

Figured out why my knee isn't out poking out properly yesterday (foot angle on the peg) so next time should be more confident to chuck it around. It's not like the 600rr has a lack of turning ability

A lot of it has to do with correct body positioning. You should be aiming to keep your spine parallel with the bike when you're hanging off. If you just shift your arse off one side then you're pelvis becomes twisted in relation to your bike which affects your foot positioning and the angle of your knee.

Ensure you're moving your body before you start your steering movement, and yes, use counter steering.

[El Dopa]

A lot of it has to do with correct body positioning. You should be aiming to keep your spine parallel with the bike when you're hanging off. If you just shift your arse off one side then you're pelvis becomes twisted in relation to your bike which affects your foot positioning and the angle of your knee.

Ensure you're moving your body before you start your steering movement, and yes, use counter steering.

....just one of the many things I need to be working on. I'll add it to the list, right above throttle blipping, late/hard braking, hitting an apex, aaaaand so on.

[EJK]

My favs from the bunch. Think I'll need full res of the first one


Sooooo need a tail tidy but they look weird with the stock exhaust:

You look like a professional rider in one of those biker magazine

[discotex]

You look like a professional rider in one of those biker magazine

Hehehe that's proof that you can't believe anything in the media these days

[discotex]

A lot of it has to do with correct body positioning. You should be aiming to keep your spine parallel with the bike when you're hanging off. If you just shift your arse off one side then you're pelvis becomes twisted in relation to your bike which affects your foot positioning and the angle of your knee.

For sure. I already keep my body parallel with the bike but I just wasn't putting the the peg in the right spot on my boot to make me naturally rotate my leg out. I'd also never looked down to see how far my leg was sticking out. Was surprised how little it was compared to how it felt haha.

[sinfull]

....just one of the many things I need to be working on. I'll add it to the list, right above throttle blipping, late/hard braking, hitting an apex, aaaaand so on.

I've come to the conclusion that the speed three tank aint designed for track work lol
Couldnt understand why i was getting better times on the 955, but think one or two of the problems is, i have no grip on the tank when i hang off the 1050, where as the 955 has a nice roll half way down the tank to hook the knee into and the rear sets are 60 mm closer to the seat so i have more leverage !

When i do hang off, i start with full the intention of looking round the mirror (or where it was anyway) but find that because i aint got no grip with the leg I end up wrestling with the bike to stay on (come home with forearms of a gorrilla too) and of course the body ends up over the tank rather than hanging off (or i'd fall off lol) I'm not relaxed and as morc said, i am manhandling the bike through corners at times, with bugger all feel or counter steering and after a half doz laps i can feel myself fading and making mistakes due to fatigue (hey no one said ya have to be fit) It's almost like clockwork that the guy i'd been holding off for them 6 or so laps slips through, during one of them mistakes !
So the morral of the story is, if ya planning on hanging off a triple get yaself some stomp grip lol I might even do a bit of glassing to create a lip half way down the side of the tank, so i can hang off while its on the stand with no hands for instance ! Probably raise the rear sets 50 mm as well ! Then it's back to the track to try and lose the bad body position i've picked up and get that knee down before the 5th of april

Cheers richard for this vid i'll borrow, ya cant beat seeing for yaself ! Worth gold that vid is ! Your deffinately someone i'll be tagging and chase round the track to get my corner speed up mate, nice and smooth !
(they snuck up on me during a yellow flag by the way lol, ya can see the 600rr lying on the grass to the left of T9 at the beginning of the vid)




Sorry for the rant, but if i write it down i'll do it Aye shafty !

[El Dopa]

So the morral of the story is, if ya planning on hanging off a triple get yaself some stomp grip

My very first ride on the speedie after I bought it, every time I braked, I'd slide into the tank balls first. Got home, got online and bought some stomp.

I was/am going to repaint the tank, so I haven't fitted it yet. might be time to move that one up the priority list.

[Dooly]

Just watched the vid Bill.
Man your speedy goes well.
Got a good toe of speed on the straight too.