How to get a Limited License! for under $400.00

[Patrick]

what if you get caught twice driveing while disqualified go to the first apperence get the limited licence then go to the second case and get disqualified again does it revoke the licence? and how hard wld it be to get if your caught driving while disqualified twice, failing to stop for red blue lights twice, rekless driving and rideing motoorcycle at dangerous speed and exceeding 100kph but i need the bike to travel to tech and im sick of rideing illegaly and my mates have to go out of there way to drop me off all of those driving charges are form ages ago except the 2 driving whilst disqualified the only reason i rode was to get to tech if i had this it wld be better

But hard to do all this when "BUBBA" is sweating behind ya...

[craigs288]

I learned that the person with the most power is the court REGISTRAR!!

Phone this person, and ask them for the form for application for limited license. If they tell you it doesn't exist, ask who can help you, if they say you'll have to phone a lawyer, they are lieing (or having a really bad day!) The form is there within easy reach of them, but it pays to establish its existance on the phone first with one person, remember their name, and go in and pick up the form from that person.
JD

Just be careful of the liars (or ignorant people) that may be at work on the day you go in to do this.
I was told by the Baycorp representative who came with the paperwork for me to sign on the day I became officially unlicenced, that you can go in and ask for the paperwork. I was told the same by a lawyer.

But when I went in and asked, the (un)helpful clerk at the desk told me in no uncertain terms that no such for existed. I said that surely that she was mistaken because why would two independent people who stand to make nothing from telling me this, lie to me. Unless they were both equally and exactly confused about the same thing (unlikely).
The unhelpful clerk repeated the lie (or ignorance) and handed me a card for a lawyer (no doubt a work colleague of hers).
Funnily enough, on the day I was in court, I spied that attached to my paperwork was the form I had asked for.
Funnily enough, the form must exist, otherwise how would anybody be able to apply for a limited licence in the first place.
However I didn't feel it would be in my best interest to interrupt the judge and ask why someone who works in the court and is paid wages with my taxes would want to lie to me and say that the form the judge was holding doesn't actually exist.
I also couldn't see a way to get hold of it and go and shove it in the face of the lying bitch who works at level 1 of the auckland district court.

If you ever have to go through this, be very careful of the liars employed by our government. They will end up costing you money. You will probably end up giving it to their friends, the lawyers. Nice little scheme they got going there.

[Gremlin]

It appears that the process might have changed, from what a lady told me at the Manukau District Court. (asking for the Court Registrar got me "which department" )

Apparently there are no forms, but its a 3 stage process (she even said several people will take my money ) of an application, an affidavit (statement of facts, why I lost license, why I need the limited license etc) and a draft order (times I need to travel, area of travel, log book etc).

Anyone got a sample I could learn from? btw, she also mentioned the application fee is $150... unless several people "will take my money" $150 times over... the cost maaaay have dropped.

I hate courts, they have you by the balls, and they know it

[kickingzebra]

Brilliant, nice to know.. got a nasty letter saying I am on 60 demerits and I better watch myself, LOL

Yeah, I have talked to a lot of people who have asked and been told it doesn't exist, What can I say, stupid people, beaurocracy and low unemployment. Bad mix.

[Gremlin]

anyone knoooow....

been a couple of weeks at least since I paid, they'll be chasing me soon, and I really need to get it organised so I don't get it ripped out of my hands on the spot

[pyrocam]

anyone knoooow....

been a couple of weeks at least since I paid, they'll be chasing me soon, and I really need to get it organised so I don't get it ripped out of my hands on the spot

this may have changed as well but afaik you cant apply until its been removed from you. they send a person three times to your abode but if the cops stop you for anything they can remove it on the spot.
but your not suspended until that point

[avgas]

And here is was thinking the law was for criminals
FYI they can serve notice on you at anytime. I have given a mate a lift home after the radio stated to an officer that he 95+todays collection of points. 100+ points and your out.

[Gremlin]

Well, having gone through the process myself now (ie, today) and coming out the other side still able to work, I guess I should note down my experience to help others.

First, meet your bible: Guide to applying for a limited licence. Now, instead of thanking me, thank Grahameeboy, as he was the one that provided it, not me.

Second, I've attached some template files (mmm can't upload .dot files, so they are .doc, you can change it back if you wish), mostly based on the pdf above, but hell, saves you typing it again - obviously you may need to alter it to your requirements, but its a starting point.

Third, my experiences (assuming all tips from document):

• Do your best to gain the approval of the local prosecution services. Do this by asking the local plod shop for prosecution in your city/town. Find out how best to communicate (voice/in person can work wonders, if you can work your charm). They generally like post/drop off to main cop shop, fax for quick stuff, and may not check email much.
• If you can come to an agreement with the cops, it turns court into pretty much a formality, as the police do not oppose your application. If they oppose your application, you're at the mercy of the judge, mine seemed a really good bloke, but it was rather entertaining to watch him rip into various people as he saw fit, and people be fantastically nice back
• Be nice to the desk people, they aren't making decisions, but they can make your life hell or a pleasure depending on how you behave to them. Its a stressful time (understatement) but they shouldn't be blamed. Niceties go a long way
• My judge was quite amazed by my application, calling it comprehensive, and whether I had paid for the documentation, and where I had got it from. So, put in the hard yards, provide as much support documentation as possible. Also, you either speak for yourself, or have a lawyer... my dad seemed unable to speak on my behalf, with the judge saying something like, he didn't have a voice.
• I was applying on the basis of "undue hardship" to my employer. I travel around the city 7 days a week, with long hours sorting issues. On this example, the police received copies of letters from some clients, stating their position on their requirements from us, my calendar from the last 6 weeks, affidavits from my boss and I (affidavit means he didn't have to show in court, and his statement had to be affirmed over a bible etc) and a map detailing the area I needed, with all locations I had to go to marked on it
• They completely dislike 24 hour licenses, as then its not limiting, I was pushing shit up hill to get prosecution to consider 15 hour days, and cut it to 6 days a week, with two specific sundays (specific work)
• Remember... they always look from the angle of you needing to be punished, while not punishing others... the limited license isn't a game
• Do it right, and if you don't use a lawyer, you'll walk out with your order for LTNZ (ie, you take it to an LTNZ agent to get a limited license) and the whole process inc. app for limited license at AA will cost you less than $200 (court filing fee of $150 and $46.50 for AA)
• Don't forget your damn proof of identity and address when you go to AA. You don't have a license to flash... nasty catch 22 that got me.

On the whole tho... I have an obvious statement... don't lose it in the first place... The time and stress trying to juggle it with work really got to me for a couple of weeks, and I still have to carry a log book of every trip, but on the bright side, I can do my work

edit: If you have questions, ask away, its always in your best interest to know exactly how things work, to do things effectively.

[kickingzebra]

excellent! Fresh info!!
Chur bro, glad you got it sussed,
Yeah the best option seems to be to go faster than the eye can catch, or of course to not do anything stupid in public places in the first place.

Thanks for adding those docs and links to this thread!

[Leagle Beagle]

Great thread, accurate and useful information on how to do it yourself.
However as some comments have indicated it can be time consuming and sometimes painful! If you don't want to do it yourself and need some help, call us, we offer the best rates for Limited Licence Applications around. $620.00 plus GST plus court filing fee of $150.00 = total $850
Call us free, no obligation on 0508 LICENCE - we ride too!

[Grahameeboy]

Great thread, accurate and useful information on how to do it yourself.
However as some comments have indicated it can be time consuming and sometimes painful! If you don't want to do it yourself and need some help, call us, we offer the best rates for Limited Licence Applications around. $620.00 plus GST plus court filing fee of $150.00 = total $850
Call us free, no obligation on 0508 LICENCE - we ride too!

Or better still pay $150 Court Fee = Total $150 inc of GST.

Use the difference to pay the ticket fine.

Using the site details I gave Gremlin it was not painful or very time consuming, no more time than spending with your Lawyer.

Better still I will help you for nothing...

You use the example templates.
Take to Police Prosecution - once they agree the Court are unlikely to refuse.
File
Go to Court
Hey presto.

[soniczx6r]

sweet all info just lost d/l three mths need d/l for work so all info has helped have to wait 28 days before apply ta for info saves a few ph calls and being put on hold by the man

[Rotorwarrior]

New to the site and just read this (been there done that), best service I found was at www.lawyerhelp.co.nz Melanie Coxon in Auckland - Kingston Street opposite the Auckland District Court. Melanies assistant is also a bike enthusiast and will do as much as possible as fast as possible! She goes out of her way to help and is by far the cheapest. Two mates who went to her had work licences in record time - check her website out - easy and fast - just like my CRF450R!!!!!

[Tank]

New to the site and just read this (been there done that), best service I found was at www.lawyerhelp.co.nz Melanie Coxon in Auckland - Kingston Street opposite the Auckland District Court. Melanies assistant is also a bike enthusiast and will do as much as possible as fast as possible! She goes out of her way to help and is by far the cheapest. Two mates who went to her had work licences in record time - check her website out - easy and fast - just like my CRF450R!!!!!

Call me cynical - but any time I see a new poster recommending certain companies with links etc it always seems to me that its someone in that business trolling for business.

Especially when their very first post is nothing to do with any current thread but a 10 month thread dredge.

(In fairness if someone who does limited licences wanted to find a place to look for customers KB has got to be one of the best places in NZ).

[Rotorwarrior]

Tank,

You right. I am a long time member of the www.fishing.net.nz forum and I suppose that is a lesson I should have carried forward as a new comer on this site. We're always just used to sharing useful info that works and I guess I should have realised the protocols...ooops. Not intended as an advert for either the lawyer - or fishing.net.nz (New Zealands No1 fishing website!!). Hope you see the humour - and cheers for pointing that out. I refer a couple of people to your site - it always comes up when someone gets done and they start looking for help.

All good!!