Taupo track surface?

**scrivy** · 1st April 2009, 17:51

Ah......... the more bad surface areas, the better for sidecars. Means I don't have to use too much throttle to break it loose!!!!!!

Also means that my passenger won't get a chance for a break!!! Now that's what Im talking about!!!! Hee hee.... that'll teach him for calling me soft.......

**icekiwi** · 1st April 2009, 18:01

They gave me the shits for awhile till I grew some gnads (small ones at that)
Felt the bike move on them a lot less when it warmed up.

**Robert Taylor** · 1st April 2009, 18:19

Is it really acceptable though that in this day and age the seal patching job is substandard, irrespective of ''running out of sand'' and a deadline. You are their customers and they are charging a going rate per customer for the use of the track. How may extra bikes may get dropped incurring expensive repairs because the track owners are effectively hiring out a track substandard for their paying customers? A number of riders who are otherwise familiar with the track wiill turn up none the wiser and may end up on their backsides.
Motor racing is dangerous but that doesnt allow itself as an excuse for substandard work. Food for thought....

**Maido** · 1st April 2009, 18:53

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Is it really acceptable though that in this day and age the seal patching job is substandard, irrespective of ''running out of sand'' and a deadline. You are their customers and they are charging a going rate per customer for the use of the track. How may extra bikes may get dropped incurring expensive repairs because the track owners are effectively hiring out a track substandard for their paying customers? A number of riders who are otherwise familiar with the track wiill turn up none the wiser and may end up on their backsides.
Motor racing is dangerous but that doesnt allow itself as an excuse for substandard work. Food for thought....

I 2nd these thoughts, also not only the fact that it could cost you money, but more importantly your life.
As Tana once said "we aren't playing tiddley winks". Racers have enough on our plates on the track without this sort of nonsense.

**wharfy** · 1st April 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by sinfull

Ya could always slow down through them 8 corners mate !

That's MY plan ........

**Tony.OK** · 1st April 2009, 22:13

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Is it really acceptable though that in this day and age the seal patching job is substandard, irrespective of ''running out of sand'' and a deadline. You are their customers and they are charging a going rate per customer for the use of the track. How may extra bikes may get dropped incurring expensive repairs because the track owners are effectively hiring out a track substandard for their paying customers? A number of riders who are otherwise familiar with the track wiill turn up none the wiser and may end up on their backsides.
Motor racing is dangerous but that doesnt allow itself as an excuse for substandard work. Food for thought....

If this was the US someone would be getting sued already, I'm with you Robert, just not cricket for a supposedly international track.
Track day is not too bad, but come race day when everyone wants the same line

...................................I'll be staying on the inside so I don't get taken out

**Starky307** · 2nd April 2009, 09:25

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

How may extra bikes may get dropped incurring expensive repairs because the track owners are effectively hiring out a track substandard for their paying customers? A number of riders who are otherwise familiar with the track wiill turn up none the wiser and may end up on their backsides.

I hear what you saying but to be honest the 3 crashes I saw on the Friday went like this,
Crash 1, front wheel washout on corner 2 of the first lap, Group 1 rider session 2
Crash 2, front wheel washout on corner 2 of the first lap, Group 1 rider again, session 3
Crash 3, between corners 8&9 something went wrong and was a big tumble, requiring ambo help off the track, Group 1 rider again.

As it went on Friday the first two spills were from what appeared to be eager riders on cold tyres and a cold track, the last one, not to sure what happened there.

**Starky307** · 2nd April 2009, 09:28

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

Dont worry about it mate, the painted lines do nothing. The white line next to the grass on the outside of the corner only causes a little wheelspin and wiggle...

Cant really comment on the track conditions as of now. But agree with Robert.

It was really noticable in the first two sessions, the bike was stepping out on each white line, once the track warmed up and the tyres were hot the issue went away, but was still in my head.
I guess that is the whole point of the track day, to learn what the bike a does in different situations and with different setups, lesson learnt.

**Patch** · 2nd April 2009, 09:36

Originally Posted by Starky307

I hear what you saying but to be honest the 3 crashes I saw on the Friday went like this,
Crash 1, front wheel washout on corner 2 of the first lap, Group 1 rider session 2
Crash 2, front wheel washout on corner 2 of the first lap, Group 1 rider again, session 3
Crash 3, between corners 8&9 something went wrong and was a big tumble, requiring ambo help off the track, Group 1 rider again.

As it went on Friday the first two spills were from what appeared to be eager riders on cold tyres and a cold track, the last one, not to sure what happened there.

and what does that have to do with the price of fish eh??? or the point of the thread

For far too long we have been putting up with substandard service in this country, hence why folks like Mr. Taylor and Co. are very busy and other folks are not.

**FROSTY:Me** · 2nd April 2009, 09:53

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

A number of riders who are otherwise familiar with the track wiill turn up none the wiser and may end up on their backsides.

Guys Im gobsmacked at this sort of comment. What the hell happened to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY??
Hey Im not saying they shouldn't get onto sorting things out THEY SHOULD --and by the way will
but FFS quite honestly in my opinion if someone bins on the slippery stuff rather than pointing the finger they need to look at themselves first and foremost.
Ok Ill rephrase.
During the winter series how many guys crashed at splash?? Its a known issue isn't it? so why aren't manfeilds management being sued over it??
Or The bumps going into Jennian at Pukie
OMG what about the manhole covers at Pearoa?

**FROSTY:Me** · 2nd April 2009, 09:58

Originally Posted by Patch

and what does that have to do with the price of fish eh??? or the point of the thread

I believe EVERYTHING. The point is the patches DIDNT cause crashes

**GSVR** · 2nd April 2009, 10:04

Maybe there could be a water truck to water down the track between races then it would be consistantly inconsistant.

I personally think that a track surface should be of a consistant high standard for roadracing. This brings out the best in rider and machine.

**Benk** · 2nd April 2009, 10:08

Originally Posted by GSVR

Maybe there could be a water truck to water down the track between races then it would be consistantly inconsistant.

Dude, that would make it more consistent. Shit, but consistent.

**Patch** · 2nd April 2009, 10:09

Originally Posted by FROSTY

I believe EVERYTHING. The point is the patches DIDNT cause crashes

so, why bother mentioning it then??

The point made it is possible and being charged full price for a substandard track is not on, but hey its unzud we accept this shit but why should we?

Can't be that hard to close it and fix it properly . . .