Huntly, we have a problem...

[Robert Taylor]

I take it by your comment Robert that Peter Fenton is a stand fast and fight sort of guy.

Yes, but then I probably need to clarify what really should be a rigid etiquette......its probably not so appropriate for current competitors, team owners and commercial suppliers / service providers within racing to stand for positions within MNZ. Conflict of interest.

[FROSTY:Me]

Assisted by the money that has been raped from road racing, another reason for yesterdays resignation.

we were warned this would happen remember.

[Robert Taylor]

Not to totally disagree, but the car racing scene is much healthier than watching those two classes would have you think. The TRS series has been affected by a shortage of drivers with the suitable skills as well as and more to the point a lack of sponsorship $$ for what is not a cheap class of racing.
Sponsors not wanting to put money into a class that does not receive as much mainstream coverage.
Conversely the Porsche series has been attracting drivers due to a combination of better signage space on the cars, a car the public and sponsors can identify with that's loud, fast and exciting. Add to this the opportunities available to drivers to compete overseas in similar Porsche series overseas and you can see why it's so successful as a worldwide series.

The NZV8's are suffering a little, due in no small part to the sheer number of major sponsors and team owners involved in the building trade which of course is suffering a tad right now. But...most of the club level and meetings just down the tier from the premier series above are generally well supported, at least by competitors if not spectators.

Right now MNZ needs to have good people working together to improve the sport and cut through the red tape and do whatever it takes to get decent money involved, so that facilities & safety can be upgraded where required, get a top notch promoter involved get decent, exciting TV coverage and engage the public's excitement.
We need outward looking people with can do attitudes rather than inward looking meddlers.

Actually yes youre right, I hadnt taken stock of the numbers in Porsche racing and the advantages. Plus theyre a heck of a lot better to watch. Equally GT racing has surprising numbers and a lot of money spent, even if that lovely Ohlins suspended TVR still keeps smoking them!

When the bikes ran with the cars at Nationals a few seasons back it was largely a mistake, but the car people were stunned at the speed and excitement of the bikes.

[cowpoos]

Yes, but then I probably need to clarify what really should be a rigid etiquette......its probably not so appropriate for current competitors, team owners and commercial suppliers / service providers within racing to stand for positions within MNZ. Conflict of interest.

while your right...from a ethical point of veiw.

From the point of the best persons/people for a job...sometimes...somethings need to be over looked for the greater good!!

and the Politically correct/ethical point of view...in this instance...ain't for the greater good...IMHO

[ricey]

I can bet you anything you like, there will be a new series starting up, and it will be away from MNZ. Paul Stewart has done heaps for RR, I wish we had him for MX. You guys were so lucky, this is a major loss to you all.

Sometimes you don't know what you have, until it's gone.

[Mishy]

Paul Stewart has done heaps for RR, I wish we had him for MX. You guys were so lucky, this is a major loss to you all.

Sometimes you don't know what you have, until it's gone.

Never a truer word spoken.
Respect to Paul for his dedication, effort,and integrity. That's a lot more than I can say for his "boss" - deliberately undermining his position in the press, and totally at odds with the industry he expects to finance his plans.
Twat.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Without reading into it too much, it seems largely like Paul Stewarts 'boss' needs to be removed from the MNZ, as it sounds like he his causing more damage than good.

What will it take to get him out if that would be beneficial?

[cowpoos]

Without reading into it too much, it seems largely like Paul Stewarts 'boss' needs to be removed from the MNZ, as it sounds like he his causing more damage than good.

What will it take to get him out if that would be beneficial?

vote of no confidence I suppose...but not sure how the constitution set up. go have a read on the MNZ website...might be there some where.

[FROSTY:Me]

Without reading into it too much, it seems largely like Paul Stewarts 'boss' needs to be removed from the MNZ, as it sounds like he his causing more damage than good.

What will it take to get him out if that would be beneficial?

Heres the question though --Who would replace him?
I dunno that its exactly a well paid job.
Also what does the racing community need from its governing body?
Please note I say NEED not want.

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perhaps its time to review the intended role played by MNZ and look to see where or indeed if we are off track.

[Billy]

Heres the question though --Who would replace him?
I dunno that its exactly a well paid job.

Wrong.Its actually a very well paid position.I do know the exact figure but dont want to risk being nailed for disclosing it publicly,But it is a 6 figure salary.Also as I have been led too believe it is under an employment contract and he cannot be voted out by anybody other than the board

[Robert Taylor]

while your right...from a ethical point of veiw.

From the point of the best persons/people for a job...sometimes...somethings need to be over looked for the greater good!!

and the Politically correct/ethical point of view...in this instance...ain't for the greater good...IMHO

I hear what you are saying but what if a current team owner was the commissioner and there was a protest affecting his team?

[Robert Taylor]

Heres the question though --Who would replace him?
I dunno that its exactly a well paid job.
Also what does the racing community need from its governing body?
Please note I say NEED not want.

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perhaps its time to review the intended role played by MNZ and look to see where or indeed if we are off track.

Andrew Stroud.

[Robert Taylor]

Wrong.Its actually a very well paid position.I do know the exact figure but dont want to risk being nailed for disclosing it publicly,But it is a 6 figure salary.Also as I have been led too believe it is under an employment contract and he cannot be voted out by anybody other than the board

If enough MNZ members expressed no confidence then the position would become untenable.

[Robert Taylor]

I can bet you anything you like, there will be a new series starting up, and it will be away from MNZ. Paul Stewart has done heaps for RR, I wish we had him for MX. You guys were so lucky, this is a major loss to you all.

Sometimes you don't know what you have, until it's gone.

If Paul Stewarts ex boss got his way with his looniest ideas it would be A CERTAINTY that the big 3 distributors who put a lot of money into the sport would pull out. He is alreday effectively ''on notice'' re their goodwill over historical derogatory comments about their level of support.

[Robert Taylor]

Wrong.Its actually a very well paid position.I do know the exact figure but dont want to risk being nailed for disclosing it publicly,But it is a 6 figure salary.Also as I have been led too believe it is under an employment contract and he cannot be voted out by anybody other than the board

Indeed, which kind of makes it even worse to realise that for all of the cr.p that Paul Stewart had put up with ( plus all the very good work he did ) he was totally unpaid barring expenses.
Paul Stewart is a man of honour with old world sensibilities and etiquette. He deserves the highest respect.