Road racing future; Superbike/600 Privateers.......and Production Naked bike Class.

[discotex]

Dissagree totally. Perhaps you should try it. I love riding a shitty old 400 on the track as opposed to riding a GSXR1000 on the road. Its really enjoyable to be able to shoot round a track (be it at a slower speed than you would on a 1000) and not have to worry about dropping a bike worth $10k +. My track bike is worth less than what it would cost to fix my GSXR if I binned it. Its great!

I will try it as currently it's just my perception. I don't think a 400 will have enough power to keep me happy but that has to be a good thing for making you pick up the mid corner speed.

Have a look at the Ozzy 450 thread. That will probably give you something to look into. It certainly has me very interested. A 600 that goes a little bit slower (we're only talking 3-4s a lap at puke), uses less tyres and is a lot easier on all other aspects regarding wear and tear.

Hmm I get ya but why wouldn't you just jump straight to F2?


I just found exactly what I would be keen on in the Aussie scene. FZ6 Masters class. You can get a race prepped FZ6 for $10,600 which is a subsidised price. One would assume Yamaha are doing them at near cost. You even get an Ohlins shock and all the road gear!

Some details here:

http://www.cluby.com.au/node/1447
http://racedeadline.com.au/?page=Vie...D2009013072190

[discotex]

And seems the Aussies have locked tyre prices for Superstock 600/1000 and FZ6 masters as well....

http://www.ma.org.au/AM/Template.cfm...ntFileID=42955

CONTROL TYRE pricing is as follows;
Fronts 120/70 17 D209GP Racer $205.00
Rears 180/55 17 D209 GP Racer $270.00
Rears 190/55 17 D209 GP Racer $290.00
600 set = $475.00
1000 set = $495.00

$750 for the 600 set at Cycletreads

[codgyoleracer]

Hi Red,
The privateers class idea is a " no brainer", different colour number boards i assume ?. Have mentioned similar in past to Paul S & media, - but no follow up.
Hope you have the time take it further & onto MNZ as a proposal, if you need any signatures of support you will have mine.
Glen Williams

[Tony.OK]

I can already see it now....................a certain Privateer showing up the Distributor sponsored riders.....

[R1madness]

hi Triple R

mate dont take this the wrong way, but who are you dude lol

All sounds great but can you intro yourself a tad for us please ?

Cheers and awesome post !

Jesus man get some class. Red (Peter Fenton) is the man behind tripple R racing. They have won several production superbike championships (bugger them) and 600 production championships, infact they won both the 600 and Superbike titles this year.......

Thought you were into the race scene!

[johnsv650]

who won 600's this year ?

[Wingnut]

I can already see it now....................a certain Privateer showing up the Distributor sponsored riders.....

I saw you on tele yesterday! Wow Im star struck!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tony.OK]

Jesus man get some class. Red (Peter Fenton) is the man behind tripple R racing. They have won several production superbike championships (bugger them) and 600 production championships, infact they won both the 600 and Superbike titles this year.......

Thought you were into the race scene!

who won 600's this year ?

Lol..........coulda sworn Jones won it

[Tony.OK]

I saw you on tele yesterday! Wow Im star struck!!!!!!!!!!!

Was I?
Buggar I wish I could afford Sky..................more importantly did I look good? Hahaa

[Wingnut]

Was I?
Buggar I wish I could afford Sky..................more importantly did I look good? Hahaa

Your name was mentioned multiple times as you were amongst a group of 5 in a battle for ??? placing at the street racing. All good to see any local racing on tele here. We need to up the exposure at that level. But thats another thread entirely..............

[Two Smoker]

Great post Red. And top stuff with what youre doing with NZ Motorcycle Racing .

As has been mentioned before, getting the public interested in Motorcycle Racing needs to be the priority. With that interest, naturally more money comes to the sport, and getting sponsorship becomes slightly easier.

A privateer class would be great. Nothing needs to be changed, it just needs to be implemented.

As for getting entries to the round paid, thats not the off putting part. The cost of tyres is the biggest problem. When running at the front you go through a minimum of 5 rears and 4 fronts. Thats nearly $2500 just on tyres alone per round.

[Mishy]

As for getting entries to the round paid, thats not the off putting part. The cost of tyres is the biggest problem. When running at the front you go through a minimum of 5 rears and 4 fronts. Thats nearly $2500 just on tyres alone per round.

Agreed - and something that could be worked with in the future perhaps. One area i think would help (apart from arbitrarlily restricting tyre use) would be longer races for the premier classes. We all spend all weekend trying to get the softest tyres to work because the race is so short that we really have no choice but to use the stupid sticky ones, and they just are not that durable. Also, the softest tyres are more prone to degradation if the conditions don't suit, or suspension is set poorly. If the races were a bit longer - 5 laps would be amost enough - then the story could be different.
If you are not aiming to use soft tyres for the race, then you will also practise on more durable, less tear prone medium tyres, and use less of them. It's kinda self regulating, and i would suspect many riders lower down the field do it this way already.
I have never understood why we have gone back to 15 lap races for the top two classes, and then finished the meeting at 3.00pm - more laps could make a useful difference, and would put more of an emphasis on picking durable tyres for the meeting.
That could be a step towards saving a dollar or two - it would just mean that overall laptimes may be a tiny touch slower, although i'm quite sure it wouldn't be much as long as we have the scope to tune suspension correctly to get the best we can.

[Shaun P]

Good point, also I think superbike should be a control slick tyre at a fixed cost for everyone entered as usually some teams/riders get special prices if they have been around for a while, where up and comers have to pay more per set - there is also a supply issue as well, same case if there is a superstock class formed - other classes should still have the homologated range.

[The Chow]

Hi Guys

I would like to voice my opinion on the matter of Paul S not standing for commissioner.As a member of the close team that ran the series , I am qualified to let you know what shit has happened over the last few months.

However first things first , Paul may have decided to not run. But what you the riders have to realise that it is not just Paul you may have lost but also the volunteer team behind the scenes , you know the people , the ones who put all the flags up and scaffolds and signage for the sponsors and TV , run the internet site for the champs which by the way is no more , which by the way gave coverage to get over 60,ooo individual users and over 1,500,000 hits from March 08 to March 09.the same people who organise the prize givings , commentate , feed the riders on race day morning and do countless other things that many riders take for granted. I'm not talking about the clubs , I'm talking about the series people.

Remember riders we did all the stuff to the best that we could do for amateurs , so you guys could get your fun out on the track , weekend in and weekend out.

We got bagged for the low turn outs at the nationals , we got bagged at Paeroa and on the radio by a well know commentator , we got bagged by the governing body , we got bagged for the lack of TV coverage .

You name it we got bagged for it. And yet we the team , Paul Stewart , Jim T , Jim D , Ian , Guy , Neil , Paul and Heather Seranake and Lynda Blair did it because we loved the sport , but to be honest , it is a job anyone can do , well isn't it? . Well now your chance to find out , someone pick up the batten and lets see what you can do.

The series is not run by one person and it doesn't really matter about how much money is being spent or how much talk is talked , the series does not happen without a group of people who are prepared to do it because they love the sport first for no wages other than some expenses in some cases.

[ArcherWC]

[QUOTE=Robert Taylor;2020857]a little bit smaller and lighter than you. [QUOTE]


Eddie you fat bastard, when are we having lunch and catching up?