those guys cant make a film for shit!
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
those guys cant make a film for shit!
Forum whore
Superbike is not echoing MCN?
Forum whore
After the K6 you'll be disappointed unless you are sitting at the coffee shop sipping your latte or riding past a refelective surface.Originally Posted by SixPackBack
Seriously mate if you cleaned up a 1098 I'd put it more down to your Cliffhanger skills than the bike. I found it breathless, ponderous and I'd take your 'blade over it anyday except for sitting outside Toppy's admiring the thing. Even then your repsol with that sexy 'zorst runs it close. Did the RC8 have the stock crazy gearing?
Hahahahaha, that's a good one.............oops, you weren't joking were you.....?Yes that would have been nice
Not interested in the litre bikes anymore, they really can't deliver any more fun than I get out of the 675.
Hardcore Biker
It seems they were testing in in isolution. When you have all the bikes next to each other that some real comparison can go through.
Good find anyway, Im not a big fan of MCN myself, I'm waiting for motorcycle.com review.
Everbody Dies But Not Everyone Lives
Hardcore Biker
ummm, isn't that article on a GSXR only? and not a shot out?
Sure the GSXR sounds nice...but when compared to the others?
A flash of lightning
Another "muppet" locking the rear and hardly leaning..... (at 1:20 in the vid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WqR_Pya3pU
Ride fast or be last.
Forum whore
That 'muppet' knows what he is doing for sure-great vid!Another "muppet" locking the rear and hardly leaning..... (at 1:20 in the vid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WqR_Pya3pU
Has left the building
Those magazine write ups don't hold too much water for me but they can be an interesting perspective. It's down to how they handle on Kiwi roads IMO...try them all.
Have to say that after owning my '09 R1 for a week that I am hugely impressed. The feel, the noise...that power delivery!
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
you guys got a demo?
can i ride it?
Forum whore
This might burst the bubble!
Independent, same-dyno tests conducted by England's Performance Bikes magazine have shown that the 2009 Yamaha R1 makes less power and torque than the 2007 model both outright and in the midrange. The new bike also weighs 4kg (9lbs) more. Progress?
PB found that the 2009 R1 made 156hp and 76lb/ft of torque at the wheel (Yamaha claims 182bhp and 85lb/ft at the crank). While measured horsepower can differ between dynometers and with variations in elevation and temperature, the same dyno, just days apart, recorded 162hp and 78lb/ft for the 2007 R1. That might not sound like a huge difference, but consider that the only place the new R1 makes more power than the old is below 4,700rpm, where it makes about 5hp more. But in the midrange, at 5,500 and 8,000rpm, the old bike is up 9hp.
Yamaha don't quote an official dry weight for the 2009 R1, preferring instead to quote it wet -- 206kg. While, on the surface, that could appear to be in the spirit of openness, it is, in fact, concealing. Dry weights are just that, no oil, no gas, no radiator fluid, nothing; therefore they're more transparent than wet weights, which can sometimes be quoted as a full tank or a half tank of fuel, with the overall capacity of those tanks not taken into account. While the wet weight is, as a customer, the way you'll find the bike, dry weights make comparisons easier. The 2009 R1 weighs 177kg or 390lbs (dry); the 2007 R1 weighs 173kg or 381lbs (dry).
The new R1 isn't supposed to be all about power though, it's supposed to be the inline-four that, like a V4 or V-Twin, puts traction and ease-of-use first. We never had a problem getting the power down on the old one, in fact finding it, along with the 2005 GSX-R1000, very easy to exploit. Well, as easy-to-exploit as a liter bike gets.
PB goes on to report that the 2009 bike uses a more track-oriented riding position as standard than the 2007, meaning it'll be less comfortable on the road.
Is a 6hp difference, less midrange and slightly more weight worth getting worked up about? In the world of liter bike dominance it could be, in-class sales success has been decided on less. In fact, more prescient questions would be: Has Yamaha done a good enough job selling the crossplane crankshaft to the public to make up for these deficiencies? In this economy, should you spend $12,390 on the new R1 or save thousands by buying on the slightly faster, better looking previous generation?
[Performance Bikes doesn't bother having a website, so we'll link to a forum its readers have created instead, PB Mag Forum]
Fair weather rider
From Motorcycle.com:
"the R1’s brakes demonstrated terrific feedback and were easy to modulate. A ramp-type slipper clutch aided corner entries, allowing quick downshifts without worrying about the rear tire locking up during compression braking. A new gear-position indicator lets a rider keep track of what’s going on in the transmission.
Yamaha has joined the electronic engine-control bandwagon by incorporating a D-mode selector that allows a choice of three engine-response maps. Unlike Suzuki’s DMS, Yamaha’s system does not affect ECU settings - the performance curve of the engine always stays the same, and it’s only alteration is the response from Yamaha’s Chip Controlled Throttle (YCC-T). The default Standard mode is said to be optimal. The A-mode provides sharper initial throttle response but the same performance as Standard up top. Response from B-mode is 30 percent slower at all throttle settings.
In terms of street use, the R1 now offers a slightly more hospitable riding position. Its handlebars are 10mm closer to the rider, and the seat is placed 8mm forward. Footpegs are situated 10mm forward, and they are now repositionable 15mm up and 3mm rearward. Only truly fast riders will need the pegs in their more aggressive position.
The Verdict
In my decade-plus career in moto-journalism, I’ve had to sift through reams of PR propaganda to discern mostly incremental increases in performance of sportbikes. Lose a few pounds here, add a couple of percent horsepower there. So it was with great delight that I found a palpable shift in technology when testing the new R1 that provides a real-world advancement in engine design.
Believe the PR hype this time around. Yamaha’s new YZF-R1 provides literbike performance in a package that benefits not only racers, but also lesser-skilled street pilots. With the addition of the cross-plane crankshaft engine, it’s safe to say that Yamaha has upped the ante in delivering mega performance in a package that will benefit riders of all types. And it sounds marvelous.
Good on ya, Yamaha! "
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No not at all 6PkBk...the way it produces its power more than makes up for it.
VERY easy to ride it fast...a lot easier than say my '07 ZX10 which was dyno'd with 176RWHP.
Zero regrets...and lets face it, it's only the average squid that really cares about the figures
The Wise
Ben Spies if he can only just stay on.
Believe the PR hype this time around. Yamaha’s new YZF-R1 provides literbike performance in a package that benefits not only racers, but also lesser-skilled street pilots. With the addition of the cross-plane crankshaft engine, it’s safe to say that Yamaha has upped the ante in delivering mega performance in a package that will benefit riders of all types. And it sounds marvelous.
Good on ya, Yamaha! "
Why would you ride that long and that gnarly stuff if you don't have to, Its what we do, we love it.
Nathan Woods R.I.P.
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Wading through the hype from online mags etc confuses those that have yet to ride the new R1. More than one scribe has claimed that in 'full fat' mode the bike has to much power for the road!?........naturally when weighed against actual power figures this makes no sense.
Most of what is written about the R1 [or any other bike] cements my belief that most scribes are THE most unreliable source of information available, and that an opposite view is but a mouse click away.
I look forward to riding the R1 as much as the K9 free from preconceived notions.
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
no bike has too much power for the road, i remember some scribe saying that about a triumph in the 90's
they tend to read into the marketing side too much i think.
but
you can trust any mormon test
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