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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    SOME people find the K6-K7 GSX-R750 uncomfortable

    I don't
    I've found the '88 and the '05 GSX-Rs both fine, even though they are quite different. There are lots of ways to fit a bike more comfortably to your body size these days; manufacturers are aware that not everyone is a standard size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mouse View Post
    Anything under 500 is unsafe on the open road. Torque for safe passing.
    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Theres plenty of 400s out there that get along just fine.
    Not to mention at least a couple of 250s... And don't even try to start another torque vs. power dicussion for crying out loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mouse View Post
    Anything under 500 is unsafe on the open road. Torque for safe passing.
    Ride within your capabilities, trying to keep up with someone who has achieved advanced handling/riding skill is dumb, no matter what the bike.
    Eat less pies, fatty.

    Comparing a "unsafe" VFR400R to your "safe" 750, you have 0.2 torques per kilo, whereas the four hundy is putting up a fight with a tad over 1.5 ft-lbs per kg, and that would even up even more once rider weights are taken into calculation.

    Hang, the 400 even puts out more horsepower stock than your 750.

    Just because you can't fit on one gives you no reason to slag 'em.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    my SMALLEST bike is 1000cc...

    i do alright
    Jeez - you need that much to haul yer fat arse around..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenhundred View Post
    Speed may not be necessary but torque is where the fun is
    Try rolling on a 250 from 1500rpm....shudder, fart, shudder, fart, shudder
    haha! especially a 2smoker! My NSR was a dog..
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    I wonder, if you can ride your bike to it's limit and it never scares you, then that's better than having a bike you don't push to it's limt becuase "IT" does scare you.... don't think engine size matters as it's the rider again who is control, if you think that 1000cc is to big for NZ roads, than I would wonder on your skill level to think like that... do you have the skill to push a large cc bike AND the attitude to respect a big bike, well any bike really as they all can get you into trouble!

    1000cc to big for NZ... no it's just the rider IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Jeez - you need that much to haul yer fat arse around..........
    repeat after me ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheeldrifter View Post
    I wonder, if you can ride your bike to it's limit and it never scares you, then that's better than having a bike you don't push to it's limt becuase "IT" does scare you.... don't think engine size matters as it's the rider again who is control, if you think that 1000cc is to big for NZ roads, than I would wonder on your skill level to think like that... do you have the skill to push a large cc bike AND the attitude to respect a big bike, well any bike really as they all can get you into trouble!

    i still own both bikes BECAUSE they scare the dogshit out of me .. the second i think i know more than the bikes they are for sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Capacity has little to do with it.

    Horsepower is the issue and what is 'excessive' varies with the size of the rider, type of riding they do, how often they carry a passenger - and their self control.
    Yep that about says it all
    I have a GSX1400K7. I didn't get it for racing, day playing or for commuting. I got it for touring long distances with the pillion and ta handle being fully laden.
    To the VFR400 owner: Let me ask you, how long would ya VFR400 last carrying the same loads I do? Carrying the same loads, would ya be able ta keep up? With the same loads, would you be able to ride 1600Km through the night comfortably? The GSX1400K7 can and will last a long time without needing much engine work doning so. That's why I have a 1000cc+ bike. If I was just day hooning by myself, then a 600cc bike would be all that I need.
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    as one who went from a vfr to a cbr954 lately i can assure you a 1000cc is too small for the road. more grunt the better. the more snot you got the less you push the bike through corners on the road. while its easy to be very quick on a wee 400 or 250 through twisties (aka the akaroa gp) and beat 99% of others on the road, its not really safe. Your carrying pretty high corner speeds to compensate for lack of grunt between corners. and when you hit gravel, centre lines or anything else you can be in trouble pretty fast.

    on the big bike you can pace back the corners a bit, see whats coming then rip the bastard open and watch life go by at warp speed. on 90% of nz roads if i went for it no 400 (even the best f3 race bikes) would be in sight. but on the other 10% i wouldn't be in sight of them.

    but in the end its the rider. some guys are faster than others on one road and others are slow everywhere. its better to be happy and comfy than unhappy, scarred and fast. unless your on track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    I ride a GSX1400, and I'd give you both the learn.

    No replacement for displacement!
    Haha! you're probably right, but I'm sure I'd have a good time trying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Theres plenty of 400s out there that get along just fine.
    very much agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJafa View Post

    Hang, the 400 even puts out more horsepower stock than your 750.

    Just because you can't fit on one gives you no reason to slag 'em.
    I'm 6"4 and fit on my NC30 just fine. Tour on it all the time too, no problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by lankyman View Post
    I'm 6"4 and fit on my NC30 just fine. Tour on it all the time too, no problems
    Oh to be young and flexible again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lankyman View Post
    I'm 6"4 and fit on my NC30 just fine. Tour on it all the time too, no problems
    OK, now put a pillion behind ya, then add 2 sleeping bags, a tent, a bed roll, wet weather gear, first-aid kit, fire extinguisher, tools, chain lube, and clothes for three days for two people, plus what every I pick-up on the way. Then find a good hill and we'll see if ya still think ya bike can cut it against a litre plus bike with the same load
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
    OK, now put a pillion behind ya, then add 2 sleeping bags, a tent, a bed roll, wet weather gear, first-aid kit, fire extinguisher, tools, chain lube, and clothes for three days for two people, plus what every I pick-up on the way. Then find a good hill and we'll see if ya still think ya bike can cut it against a litre plus bike with the same load
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