Veitch sentenced

[jrandom]

"he should HTFU a women can't hurt a man"

Assuming she doesn't have a weapon, are you saying that's not true?

[discotex]

Difference in physical capabilities, innit.

Most men can kick most women's arses with one hand tied behind their back, etc. S'just the way homo sapiens is built. 99% of the time, a woman going nuts and 'assaulting' a male is annoying, rather than something that can result in serious injury.

And, conversely, a male assaulting a female generally means that there's no chance she'll be able to realistically defend herself. Which is why 'male assaults female' is legally recognised as a more naughty form of violence.

I don't personally know of any cases in which a man's whined about a woman 'assaulting' him where the man couldn't have just walked away. 'Self-defence' in those circumstances tends to be a euphemism for 'I was really annoyed and didn't want to back down, and the bitch swung at me first so I let her have it'.

Your argument implies that weedy guys should be allowed to bash their "big boned" wives because "hey it's hardly gonna hurt her cause he's a wuss and she has a protective layer of fat"

[MadDuck]

You might be surprised and shocked at what you hear.

Nup. Seen it. Spent my youth in GI so nothing shocks me. Its how you react that makes the difference.

[98tls]

Go into any pub in NZ and ask the patrons "is it ok to use reasonable force as a man defending himself from a women attacker?" I guarantee the majority of responses will be along the lines of "he should HTFU a women can't hurt a man" or "a man should never touch a women even if she starts it" etc etc.

You might be surprised and shocked at what you hear.

EDIT: Note exhibit 1 above....

Oi stop confusing Auckland with the rest of the country.

[discotex]

Assuming she doesn't have a weapon, are you saying that's not true?

Have you been kicked in the balls by a woman?

Thank fuck I haven't but I'd consider that a serious assault. Somehow I doubt the police or courts would.

[98tls]

Have you been kicked in the balls by a woman?

Thank fuck I haven't but I'd consider that a serious assault. Somehow I doubt the police or courts would.

My point exactly.....at least in Auckland you could have grabbed her by the beard.

[discotex]

Nup. Seen it. Spent my youth in GI so nothing shocks me. Its how you react that makes the difference.

Ummm yeah you planning to tell that to the women too?

Oi stop confusing Auckland with the rest of the country.

man it's the rest of the country I'm talking about.

[discotex]

My point exactly.....at least in Auckland you could have grabbed her by the beard.

In Auckland you'd never know if "she" isn't in-fact a "he".

[MadDuck]

Ummm yeah you planning to tell that to the women too?

OK seems you have had a bad experience with women kicking you in the balls.

My first ever visit to the GI pub I was 15 (ok you lot thats a while ago) and I watched a blind man get beaten up just because he tripped over someone. This was were I lived. This was my home. Would I kick a man in the balls...well depends on if he deserved it!

[jrandom]

Your argument implies that weedy guys should be allowed to bash their "big boned" wives...

Your average 'weedy' guy with a fat missus is still a fair bit stronger than her.

And, also, walking away is almost always an option. Women tend not to be aggressive so much as flustered - move out of range and disengage, and the problem disappears. When 'fighting' with a woman, it is simply not necessary to engage in active fisticuffs to avoid personal injury.

The exception to the low female aggression thing being, of course, darkies. But they generally have brown partners, too, who tend to be genetically large, so the problem sort of evens itself out.

Now, I know a few women who've been in physically violent relationships. The controlling, abusive shit that goes on in that context is simply not something that normal human psychology and physiology allows to happen in the other direction.

Of course, there are always exceptions to every rule. But, in this case, the fact that they are exceptions is kinda my point.

Thank fuck I haven't but I'd consider that a serious assault. Somehow I doubt the police or courts would.

What nonsense. Assuming there were witnesses to the assault, she'd certainly be charged and convicted.

Still, you're in absolute la-la land if a woman kicks you in the nuts and you didn't either soundly deserve it, or see it coming a mile off.

[Usarka]

Not condoning physical violence for one second.

BUT

Perhaps there should also be a law against mental violence?????

[MadDuck]

Perhaps there should also be a law against mental violence?????

Well thats KB farked

[98tls]

Not condoning physical violence for one second.

BUT

Perhaps there should also be a law against mental violence?????

Fuck no,that would see Cruisers banished.

[98tls]

Your average 'weedy' guy with a fat missus is still a fair bit stronger than her.

And, also, walking away is almost always an option. Women tend not to be aggressive so much as flustered - move out of range and disengage, and the problem disappears. When 'fighting' with a woman, it is simply not necessary to engage in active fisticuffs to avoid personal injury.

The exception to the low female aggression thing being, of course, darkies. But they generally have brown partners, too, who tend to be genetically large, so the problem sort of evens itself out.

Now, I know a few women who've been in physically violent relationships. The controlling, abusive shit that goes on in that context is simply not something that normal human psychology and physiology allows to happen in the other direction.

Of course, there are always exceptions to every rule. But, in this case, the fact that they are exceptions is kinda my point.



What nonsense. Assuming there were witnesses to the assault, she'd certainly be charged and convicted.

Still, you're in absolute la-la land if a woman kicks you in the nuts and you didn't either soundly deserve it, or see it coming a mile off.

Amen to that,whats with niggers n fat chicks?Drum wasnt into them.

[ital916]

I love your generalisations on how physical build affects the outcome of a fight jrandom, yes there are extremes as in if youre a big fucker most of the time you will win. Remember not every guy is suck a kick ass live action hero who just spreads his seed and then keeps on kicking ass like you jrandom.

Many guys you see at uni and around nz are just as skinny or fat as the women around them. I have seen women bite, gouge, kick in the nuts, hit with high heels a lot of guys *mainly in town at night*.

I think it is an unfair generalisation to assume women are weak and oh so innocent and a blow against gender equality if men are still seen as natural aggressors.

What so sue me, I said it, women want equality only where it benefits but not where they already have an advantage.

If a person took a swing at me in a serious manner I would class that as asault and defend myself as necessary regardless of whether they had testicles or not.