FFM helmets

[xwhatsit]

Where's that article everybody posts up links to with the helmet test where they drop a bunch onto concrete from on high? I think some $110 turd comes out number one.

Yeah! This one: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html

I know logic and paying attention to detail isn't the forté of label-fiends but it's worthwhile taking the time to read it.

[mctshirt]

Please post (with citations) any information you have with regard to riders who have suffered head injuries in crashes due to wearing a sub-standard FFM helmets.
(note: "a guy you were talking to at the pub" does not count)

What about a mate's friend's wife's cousin's boyfriend - they're usually a reliable source of scientific evidence

[Bonez]

$190 head $190 dollar helmet!

I've had a few nocks on the noggin with FFMs on over years I've been riding and I'm still here to tell the tale. I'll be buying another FFM provided it fits properly.

[awayatc]

I cannot believe what I am reading....are you for real? It may seem like an old cliche but believe it or not you get what you pay for! Same as everything in life. FFM helmets are low quality, cheap arse plain old nasty bits of crap. Do yourselves a favour and try a real helmet, you will laugh that you thought FFM's were ok. FFM are mass produced to the lowest possible price and when price is the key target guess what suffers...yes thats right quality, design, R&d , testing all the things you really want to be done with what is the only thing protecting your head.
Ask yourself this question. What is my head worth to me? Probably more than $150 or what ever you pay for a FFM.

Sorry if this insults users of FFM's but it is itended to wake you up.

Hope the helmet you wearing has a big visor....
Big enough for your boot....
Foot in mouth comes to mind....

[NordieBoy]

Yes fitment is very important that is why "real helmets" come with different size padding sets so they can be fitted exactly to your head and face.
As Arai state, "there is a difference". Try one, go on treat yourself.

As the aformentioned $195 Zeus does.

[Gizzit]

Yes fitment is very important that is why "real helmets" come with different size padding sets so they can be fitted exactly to your head and face.
As Arai state, "there is a difference". Try one, go on treat yourself.

You don't know what you're talking about

[Kevin G]

Lets do it another way. Show me someone doing this in an FFM and still remain concious. Count the hits at 200MPH!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36...skids-at_sport

I know a lot of people are happy with the FFM, all I am saying is that it is not as good as other helmets, "there is a difference" end of my story.

[xwhatsit]

Lets do it another way. Show me someone doing this in an FFM and still remain concious. Count the hits at 200MPH!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36...skids-at_sport

I know a lot of people are happy with the FFM, all I am saying is that it is not as good as other helmets, "there is a difference" end of my story.

There's an article I posted earlier which has a large number of different manufacturers' helmets, doing actual, real, same-on-every-helmet testing.

Whereas your response is one guy crashing a bike in an Arai helmet and saying you wouldn't want to do it in an FFM?

Because that's a convincing argument based on fact

[Ojai]

Lets do it another way. Show me someone doing this in an FFM and still remain concious. Count the hits at 200MPH!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36...skids-at_sport

I know a lot of people are happy with the FFM, all I am saying is that it is not as good as other helmets, "there is a difference" end of my story.

I don't see your point here. How does one helmet's performance mean anything about another helmet?

You say that FFM isn't as safe, but you show no evidence of that except for brand awareness.

How is an FFM not as good as other helmets? Which helmets are it worse than, and in what way? Which ones is it better than?

What crash/safety ratings are you basing your conclusions on?

[Kevin G]

I pick the real world over simulations in a lab any day. Challange stands show me real world proof.
Here is an interesting video about helmet fit, worth a look. http://www.araiamericas.com/default.aspx?pageid=160
Also some articles on this site explaining some of the points of difference between hand made and mass produced items

[jrandom]

*links to Arai marketing material*

One begins to suspect that you're an idiot.

[Ojai]

I pick the real world over simulations in a lab any day. Challange stands show me real world proof.
Here is an interesting video about helmet fit, worth a look. http://www.araiamericas.com/default.aspx?pageid=160
Also some articles on this site explaining some of the points of difference between hand made and mass produced items

Here is proof.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html

If you want real world though, please feel free to run up to 200kph and fall off your bike wearing an Arai, then getting up and doing the same with an FFM.

But you don't need to, due to something called the scientific method, which was applied in the experiments covered in the article you seem to want to pretend doesn't exist.

One begins to suspect that you're an idiot.

This too.

[awayatc]

Xwhatsit and Ojai post a link to a very usefull and informative article.
It takes time to read it though....
And a few braincells to process that information....
But my head is worth it...
So I did....
Thanks,
I was quite happy with my FFM,
and after reading all of this,
I still am...
Just better informed.

[Gizzit]

I pick the real world over simulations in a lab any day. Challange stands show me real world proof.
Here is an interesting video about helmet fit, worth a look. http://www.araiamericas.com/default.aspx?pageid=160
Also some articles on this site explaining some of the points of difference between hand made and mass produced items

You don't know what you're talking about.

[nagaraya]

Here's a couple of articles about the Sharp helmet ratings and a range of brands compare to each other... might be worth a read.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...ing-system.htm

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...helmet-faq.htm