Veitch sentenced

**Swoop** · 19th April 2009, 14:42

Originally Posted by trustme

Veitch is reviled for kicking a woman when she is down,
I guess you guys can kick him when he's down because you occupy the moral high ground . Yeah right !!

I bet he has been offered all the councelling imaginable.

NZ C-grade celebrities attempting to milk the media, do not entertain.

As someone who has never kicked a woman, "The HighGround" it is.

**Patrick** · 19th April 2009, 14:43

Originally Posted by Mom

I see the TV have pulled their SUNDAY programme on him due to his fragile state of mind. Interesting comment in the paper today, hope he takes heed.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/ne...ectid=10567314

Although the enemy, they actually summed it up well....

Originally Posted by mynameis

Carefully crafted media load of shit, guess who he was commenting about outside court and on TV?

NZ Herald.

Dumb for them to publish something like that, basically telling him what he needs to do.

But I agree with the Harold on this one. VEITCH himself says it is "so intolerable to have to wait for 2 more years to have his day in court" or words to this effect, and of how devestating and destroying the whole saga has been.... yet he is completely willing to do it all again by sueing the media over the coverage, which will drag on for.... ummm.. a couple of years or so?????? He needs to let it go and get himself all sorted.

Originally Posted by Number One

WRONG! Doesn't happen - even if you have 'grave fear' about someone it can be hard to raise ANY resources to locate said apparently suicidal in car person. Long time ago a mate managed to successfully kill himself this way and everyone knew what he was up to and DID contact police NOTHING was done. He was found hours afterwards.

NOTHING...???

You sure about that???????

EVERY suicide call we take, we go to the usual suicide haunts and known places he or she would go to. What else can one do? Needle in a hay stack.....

But I get where you are coming from... the resources put in to BVEITCH that could have been put in to searching for your friend would probably result in a different outcome for your friend. But somehow, VEITCH is more important???

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I think the police covered their arse in this. Can you imagine the furore the 'Veitch Team would have mounted against the police if they had not taken the family concerns seriously and found Veitch had topped himself. His inlaws have serious money so could have mounted a both legal campaign and media campaighn.

But you are right. Unless the police have specific information on possible whereabouts...........not much is going to happen other than an 'all points' given of a description.

Skyryder

And how would these "camapigns" succeed? Police looked around while patrolling, advised over the radio what was up..... Legally did their duty. The media making a story out of it? Possibly, but we are sooooooooooo used to that by now...... and do the public really care?

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Nope he threatened legal action. Veitch had the oppertunity of which you speak but he has decided otherwise. The judge got it right. He bought all this on himself and is continueing to do so.

Skyryder

Spot on. Its all been so horrible for him... but he wants to continue on with it all???? Go figure......

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 19th April 2009, 15:07

He sounds like he is a PD (personality disorder) to me.
Profile is some one with a huge sense of entitlement and when hearing the word no throws all their toys out the cot, specialises in making mountains out of mole hills and perpetuating the hurt. Suicide attempts are not uncommon, its all about making a point for them but sometimes the attempt is accidentally successful!!

Me thinks this aint over yet!

**Winston001** · 19th April 2009, 15:13

Originally Posted by Kwaka14

I don´t understand how you can give someone a reference and say it´s fine for one thing and not for another....

someone is reliable or they aren´t I would have thought. AFAIC Devoy looks bad in this instance, a reference is a black or white thing....

Have to disagree.

I give references quite often and always know why. The reference is tailored to the purpose.

For example, if someone I knew was emotionally vulnerable (depression etc) I'd happily give a passport reference but not if they wanted to be an ambulance officer. Unable to perform under pressure.

If I had reason to suspect their honesty, but gave them the benefit of the doubt, I'd give a reference for a job that didn't involve handling money. Even then I might not do it, suggesting the new employer phone instead.

What most of you are thinking of is a general character reference - that tends to be very general and doesn't say much at all because it can be used so widely.

I think it is despicable that Veitch obtained references under false pretences. Not just from Devoy but others too. I doubt that much can be done about it although the civil action of deceit still exists.

Its just another indicator of the man's shallow character.

**Skyryder** · 19th April 2009, 15:15

Originally Posted by Scouse

This thread is really tiresome, the guy made a mistake, the courts have sentenced him, Job done, time to move on and forget it. it seem there is some bitterness held by some of you out there because Tony Veitch has in the past been way more successful than most of you lot. Grow the fuck and leave the man alone to get on with rebuilding his life.

Wrong. Perhaps some of us just think it is plain old wrong to kick someone on the ground and at the risk of being sexist doubly so for a female.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 19th April 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by Scouse

This thread is really tiresome, the guy made a mistake, the courts have sentenced him, Job done, time to move on and forget it. it seem there is some bitterness held by some of you out there because Tony Veitch has in the past been way more successful than most of you lot. Grow the fuck and leave the man alone to get on with rebuilding his life.

Hope he has more luck rebuilding than he does trying to end it.If you find it tiresome dont read it,not that hard really eh.As for bitter nope no bitterness here fuck im enjoying the little cunts pathetic antics,long may it continue i say.

**kiwifruit** · 19th April 2009, 15:19

**Number One** · 19th April 2009, 15:25

Originally Posted by Patrick

NOTHING...???

You sure about that???????

EVERY suicide call we take, we go to the usual suicide haunts and known places he or she would go to. What else can one do? Needle in a hay stack.....

But I get where you are coming from... the resources put in to BVEITCH that could have been put in to searching for your friend would probably result in a different outcome for your friend. But somehow, VEITCH is more important???

Needle in haystack for sure - get that. This friend actually drove way up north to do it in his car. Apparently concerned family and friends were told by police on more than one phone call that he wasn't classed as a missing person until he had been missing for 48 hours and so while they empathised with their concerns they couldn't do anything.

Perhaps things have changed somewhat? Either way it's a bit shitty to see that Veitch has been able to suck up all these resources time and time again and yet is still allowed to be kept at home in the care of his family....seems fairly obvious that he needs more 'care' than they are currently able to offer him at home.

From all the reports I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he gets diagnosed with Bi polar disorder. UP UP and then DOWN DOWN...hmmmmm

**Winston001** · 19th April 2009, 15:37

Lets look at this rationally:

Veitch has a high profile cos he's on the tele. He's ok at his job.

He earned a salary entirely out of step with his real value - but so do many other minor tv faces. Can't hold that against him.

He appears to have a history of anger/assault problems but not been prosecuted. There are probably people here whom that is true of too.

He seriously assaulted his ex-partner. They both made up a story about the injuries to protect their reputations over a private matter.

He paid her a huge sum of money as compensation - because he could. $10,000 from you or me would be just as huge a sum. I think its fair for the public to see this as hush money - it was.

Somehow the facts became public. His ex has got nothing out of that except pressure and grief. No benefit to her at all.

Dunsten-Powell has said little in public - in fact she's kept her dignity and the confidentiality of the agreement.

By contrast Veitch has had a lot to say, much of it through very expensive advisors. Team Veitch have tried to turn the ex into a witch (maybe she is......) but it hasn't worked.

I don't think this has anything to do with envy of Veitch being a tv (cough) star, or getting paid so much. I think its about a man who kicked and assaulted a women so badly she had to go to hospital.

When he was uncovered, instead of standing up like a mature man, he hinted - and continues to do so - about dark secrets, untold sides of the story, investigations, discovery yadda yadda. Well, he had his opportunity to have a full hearing - and didn't take it. Guilty.

Contrast that with Norm Hewitt who was virtually an alcoholic - put his hands up, and is publicly respected. Or Lana Cocroft who quietly pulled her head in. Or Peter Sharples who admitted domestic violence himself. No excuses.

Veitch gloried in the tv limelight - he could have kept that if he'd shown humility and maturity.

**Patrick** · 19th April 2009, 15:37

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Wrong. Perhaps some of us just think it is plain old wrong to kick someone on the ground and at the risk of being sexist doubly so for a female.

Skyryder

Nothing sexist about it at all. Outright plain dirty cowardly, no matter what sex the victim is......

Originally Posted by Number One

Needle in haystack for sure - get that. This friend actually drove way up north to do it in his car. Apparently concerned family and friends were told by police on more than one phone call that he wasn't classed as a missing person until he had been missing for 48 hours and so while they empathised with their concerns they couldn't do anything.

Perhaps things have changed somewhat? Either way it's a bit shitty to see that Veitch has been able to suck up all these resources time and time again and yet is still allowed to be kept at home in the care of his family....seems fairly obvious that he needs more 'care' than they are currently able to offer him at home.

From all the reports I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he gets diagnosed with Bi polar disorder. UP UP and then DOWN DOWN...hmmmmm

I too wonder about the post above - the "P" pipe one....

How he couldn't understand how he lost total control etc etc.... With mates into that sort of thing, a no brainer probably..... but who knows.....

48 hours is the norm, so long as there are no fears for their immediate safety or well being... Your suicidal mate fell into this category straight away and action should have been taken. It has been this way for as long as I can remember (24 years or so now...).

**Number One** · 19th April 2009, 15:42

Originally Posted by Patrick

48 hours is the norm, so long as there are no fears for their immediate safety or well being... Your suicidal mate fell into this category straight away and action should have been taken. It has been this way for as long as I can remember (24 years or so now...).

That's quite sad to hear frankly...as all the people who called were very clear that they had 'grave concerns for his mental health and wellbeing'.

He had already attempted about 3 months prior and veru seriously and only just not quite successfully so he was 'in the system' CAT team knew about him and he'd spent time in hospital under observation.

He had been going around tying up all his affairs and we were pretty damn sure how it was going to end...Guess when someone is determined to go they get it sorted and there is NO stopping them

**scumdog** · 19th April 2009, 17:51

Originally Posted by Skyryder

No he paid her compensation to keep her mouth shut.

And she did for three years..............to her credit. It was not until the story broke that she finaly spoke out.

Skyryder

Did she pay back the money once she hadn't 'kept her mouth shut'.

**Number One** · 19th April 2009, 17:54

Originally Posted by scumdog

Did she pay back the money once she hadn't 'kept her mouth shut'.

The deal apparently was that she didn't talk to the 'media' which she maintains that she didn't until this latest interview and as she said even then she didn't discuss 'the incident' AND the $$$ were for expenses incurred as a result of the injuries he gave her. Better than spending money on lawyers to get the money out of him AND he only paid the money when it became clear that she was finally speaking to the cops and charges were being laid...the deal being that she wouldn't speak about it to the media.