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    1100cc 2-stroke Superbike

    http://www.motorcycledaily.com/22apr...0cc2stroke.htm

    "What the world needed was an answer to the current literbikes, which we find anemic," Rothwell told me over the phone. "If a bike can't hoist the wheel in 4th gear off the throttle it's not a superbike." The 1100cc three-cylinder TSS1100GP should have no such problems; when completed, it should make 250 hp at the rear wheel and 160 ft.-lbs. of torque. A powervalve will keep things rideable, with a characteristic hit of power as the revs climb. The chassis will be a lightly-modded Kawasaki ZX-10R ("it's beefy enough") and Rothwell expects the wet weight to be under 340 pounds: "when you dismantle a literbike and see how heavy that four-stroke motor is, it's just sad, really." The next project? The 112-hp TSS500 engine installed in a Yamaha WR450 supermoto chassis. "There's nothing 'super' about a four-stroke supermoto," sniffed Rothwell.
    Would it really work on the track?

    It'd be cool to see it go head to head with the standard bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toast View Post
    Would it really work on the track?
    Good question - I thought the MotoGP teams have spent the last few years taming the power deliveries of the 4-stroke engines to enable the bikes to hook-up as smoothly and quickly as possible out of corners. You don't win races spinning or sliding rear wheels.

    I guess they'll tame the old 2-stroke hit out of the power band.

    Either way I'm available for a test ride........

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    would it work on track. a drag strip probably. a race ttrack?? id want some motogp anti wheelie anti wheel spin tech in it.

    all i can think of is "what don't kill ya only makes you stronger??"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toast View Post
    http://www.motorcycledaily.com/22apr...0cc2stroke.htm



    Would it really work on the track?

    It'd be cool to see it go head to head with the standard bike.
    This is really interesting and I suspect a lot of people will be following this through to see if a Road Bike comes out of this project.

    Wasn't it a project such as this that brought Bimota down.
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    Yep the Bimota V-due.........the fall of a empire!!!! http://www.vdue.it/

    Said to be the re-birth of the 2 stroke.........must have had the umbilical cord round it's neck on the way out!!

    I'm a 2 stroke racer and fan so I always dream of Dorna coming out and saying we're bringing back the REAL GP bikes the 500's!!!

    I been keeping a close eye on the Two Stroke Shop they are a crowd in Oz that seem to be pretty on to it!! http://www.twostrokeshop.com/

    They're building a RS250 prillia with a 500cc twin in it (Based on a RD350 engine)

    Thats my kind of fun!!!

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    That looks sweet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    This is really interesting and I suspect a lot of people will be following this through to see if a Road Bike comes out of this project.

    Wasn't it a project such as this that brought Bimota down.
    I think that the Bimota failed largely because of the direct injection technology which made the fuelling like an on/off switch...

    This bike, being for now a one-off and I'd assume therefore not subject to emissions reg's, doesn't appear to be attempting to use that same tech (the article says that in future it could though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Good question - I thought the MotoGP teams have spent the last few years taming the power deliveries of the 4-stroke engines to enable the bikes to hook-up as smoothly and quickly as possible out of corners. You don't win races spinning or sliding rear wheels.

    I guess they'll tame the old 2-stroke hit out of the power band.

    Either way I'm available for a test ride........
    Personally, I am VERY keen to see this bike a reality, and wish these guys all the success in the world!

    Call me cynical, but I don't currently believe that there is anyone in the world that is capable of riding such a machine (not even close), like you say, so much of the "big 4" (and Ducati) development over the last few years has centered around making the current MotoGP 4 stroke engines rideable (I suggest that task would be a cake walk compared to the sort of technology that would be required to make an 1100cc two stroke "useable".

    I have seen an interview with Rossi in the second year of 4 strokes, and he said even then the 2 stroke 500's where frightening compared to the new 4 strokes....Imagine an 1100cc two stroke (and the torque that thing will produce!....I'm salivating!)

    It would be one hell of a bike though! AND it would be awesome if they where able to develop an engine management system to cope!

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