Clarification on NZSBK website

**Shaun** · 25th April 2009, 16:33

Originally Posted by The Chow

I was asked to comment on the site by some people who matter . People who know me know that I don't blow my own trumpet very much, so Mr Boomer please don't comment on something you no nothing about.

Impossible Chow-- Boomer "knows' EVERY THING

PS BOOMER- I will take you up on your $20 bet mate

Chow Knows exactually what he is talking about-- No Rumours or speculation from him, he has worked on the out side of road racing for many many years, and I believe he has doen well with it, for ALL OF US!

**boomer** · 25th April 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by Shaun

Impossible Chow-- Boomer "knows' EVERY THING

PS BOOMER- I will take you up on your $20 bet mate

Chow Knows exactually what he is talking about-- No Rumours or speculation from him, he has worked on the out side of road racing for many many years, and I believe he has doen well with it, for ALL OF US!

lol.. im not quite female status yet but i'm working on it..!!!

My point Shaun, and i'll use you as an example, is that rumours banded about willy nilly in public forums are, at best, not very nice. I've heard so many rumours about you shaun that would make my dead cat turn in its grave.. but i dont go plastering 'em all over the interweb... ? Maybe i should, i'll make more friends that way huh?!

As you were... im happy watching and laughing at the debacle that is NEW ZEALAND racing !!!!

ps.. i lied about the bet.. so sue me

**suzuki mama** · 25th April 2009, 17:36

Originally Posted by boomer

I'm laughing, there's obviously a witch hunt underway, but Chow; unless you do the accounts and have been privvie to all the CEO's undertakings how do you know exactly what arrangement was/is in place between the CEO and the monies paid/owed?!

Best be sure ALL your ducks are lined up before u start shooting 'em...

ps. I don't race and have no affilitation with racers the MNZ or the CEO but washing your dirty laundry in public ???

Boomer , interesting choice of words for some one claiming to be not involved etc .
the membership of mnz knows all about witch hunts !! Noel Curr could write a manuscript on the effects of being on the receiving end of one.

What we as members are trying to do is to go back to operating within our constitution,reunite our sport and give the greatest benefits back to the members,
what we have at present is excuse my language a major cluster f---
we have a set of occounts that is insulting to our intelligence as members i for one want to see the whole accounts,and i will probably be accused off a witch hunt on that one as well/
We have a CEO OFFSIDE WITH THE INDUSTRY AND MANY OF THE CLUBS ,
THIS ISNT A WITCH HUNT ITS A FACT.

**budda** · 25th April 2009, 17:38

Well said Gremlin.

Boomer DOES have a point about rumours and innuendo, but the fact(s) speak for themselves - Postman Pat IS the guy involved, WAS there at the time, DID go through all the crap AND put in all the effort ........
Therefore I tend to give his statements some credence.

Seems important at this stage to re-state my own position in all this - It is NOT my case that everything the MNZ CEO has done is bad or counter-productive. This is NOT an anti-Pav crusade, well not for ME at least. But if it looks like it, smells like it, it just might BE it ?

Rather this Election is an opportunity to bring about some POSITIVE change, for the betterment of the "debacle that is NZ Racing".

As you can tell from many of the other postings, far too many on here are, despite being "in the game", blissfully unaware of the goings on behind the scenes, the at times nasty undercurrents, and the real reasons why some of the things that are going on are happening

Numerous posters on these forums have asked for answers, people like The Diminutive Man are doing their best to give 'em to you straight, no bullshit and to the point. How you all take 'em is up to you

**boomer** · 25th April 2009, 17:43

Originally Posted by budda

Boomer, I, like Jim and Ian and all the rest of the Commission Team, will defend your right to your opinion, even when we disagree with it ........

Seems that YOU know a different and more correct version of the relevant facts - please, for the sake of clarity and to prevent those of us involved at the time from suffering a lifetime of self-delusion, tell us all what REALLY happened ........

And Chow, I've cellotaped a $20 to the fridge door with your name on it, that should kick off your defense fund !!!!!!!! Please do the same for me .....

I feel so privilaged to have you defend my opinion! THANK YOU !

if YOU do KNOW ( thats not the 'no' no but the 'know' no... ) all the scandelous information then why havent YOU done anything about it, other than shout BURN him.. Burn HIM !

Usuall story i imagine.. all smoke no fire, or are you teh force behind teh Chow Pawn.. !!! ahahhahah

ahaha i dont give a rats ass mate, as i said i dont race, i dont know any of YOU or teh MNZ.

**budda** · 25th April 2009, 17:46

[QUOTE=suzuki mama;2044353]

What we as members are trying to do is to go back to operating within our constitution,reunite our sport and give the greatest benefits back to the members,
what we have at present is excuse my language a major cluster f---

Thank you so much for not offending my sensibilities !!!!! Spot-On description though !

But before we all decide to go back to the future, and the Constitution, best you READ the thing. Still got the fish-hooks that were there when it was sold to us .

**boomer** · 25th April 2009, 17:49

Originally Posted by suzuki mama

Boomer , interesting choice of words for some one claiming to be not involved etc .

Im an interesting sort of fella...

Go for it chick.. but scorning people publicly isn;t always teh means to the end..?!

**Shaun** · 25th April 2009, 18:02

Originally Posted by boomer

lol.. im not quite female status yet but i'm working on it..!!!

My point Shaun, and i'll use you as an example, is that rumours banded about willy nilly in public forums are, at best, not very nice. I've heard so many rumours about you shaun that would make my dead cat turn in its grave.. but i dont go plastering 'em all over the interweb... ? Maybe i should, i'll make more friends that way huh?!

As you were... im happy watching and laughing at the debacle that is NEW ZEALAND racing !!!!

ps.. i lied about the bet.. so sue me

Ha ha, might be worth a laugh to remind me about some of then some time

**brads** · 25th April 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by boomer

?!

As you were... im happy watching and laughing at the debacle that is NEW ZEALAND racing !!!!
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Question? why would someone that says they have no real link to NZ road racing ,yet, says that people that do, know nothing?
As for the above comment,yes it may be going through a rough patch,but at least some of us are trying to do something about rather than post childish comments.

**boomer** · 25th April 2009, 18:15

Originally Posted by brads

Question? why would someone that says they have no real link to NZ road racing ,yet, says that people that do, know nothing?
As for the above comment,yes it may be going through a rough patch,but at least some of us are trying to do something about rather than post childish comments.

im just a spectator... dont mind me.

**suzuki mama** · 25th April 2009, 18:25

Well said Brad,
Budha, theres 60 dollars on our fridge for the chow and the QC IS SHARPENING HIS PENCIL ,
There would be 80 but the littlest member in the hopes his mother might take the hint on a bigger mx bike is saving his money for mothers day ,

Not to be accused of being personal here and actually being a member and knowing some of those involved ,i would personally take the word of Paul Stewart any day over the Ceos sorry thats the way it is

Budha when i said we have a constitution i should have said we have a framework , a number of our paid employees and board are operating outside of it ,it needs the members and clubs to spend time on it getting it right .

We have tried it one way and its not working ,we have with the elections and the prospect of fresh eyes coming in the opportunity to fix IT
LETS NOT WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY
Boomer your post reminded me strangely of the modus operandi of some in mnz .you can put up the smokescreen of witch hunts all you like the simple truth is if people had confidence, if things were working if ordinary members could actually get answers from mnz things would be diffrent

**Robert Taylor** · 25th April 2009, 18:35

Originally Posted by boomer

Ok, firstly its 'know',

Secondly, you're in a Public forum and i'm able to comment as much as i.. yes I like.

Thirdly why be a voice for others, expecially when you obvioulsy dont have all the facts? being a pawn is ..well.. just that.

And lastly, wether you blow your own trumpet or not doesn't really tell me if you have all your ducks in a row; does it? i'm inclined to think you don't. and i'd bet $20 that you'll find yourself with libel charges sooner rather than later ( pawn or not )

I laughed at this point, resorting to name calling; any credence you may have had has long gone.

Actually there is no doubt whatsoever that Ian has all the facts. I have known Ian for a long long time, hes a modest guy and the fact he has posted on this site is a real indictment of how many toes the CEO has tread on.

**boomer** · 25th April 2009, 18:35

Originally Posted by suzuki mama

Well said Brad,
Budha, theres 60 dollars on our fridge for the chow and the QC IS SHARPENING HIS PENCIL ,
There would be 80 but the littlest member in the hopes his mother might take the hint on a bigger mx bike is saving his money for mothers day ,

Not to be accused of being personal here and actually being a member and knowing some of those involved ,i would personally take the word of Paul Stewart any day over the Ceos sorry thats the way it is

Budha when i said we have a constitution i should have said we have a framework , a number of our paid employees and board are operating outside of it ,it needs the members and clubs to spend time on it getting it right .

We have tried it one way and its not working ,we have with the elections and the prospect of fresh eyes coming in the opportunity to fix IT
LETS NOT WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY
Boomer your post reminded me strangely of the modus operandi of some in mnz .you can put up the smokescreen of witch hunts all you like the simple truth is if people had confidence, if things were working if ordinary members could actually get answers from mnz things would be diffrent

you can burn me too.. i dont care; i've spent all your money on piss and women!

funny thing is, i'd pay $20 to watch this debacle unfold but wont pay $20 to go watch any of u moaning minnies at a SBK meet....

**suzuki mama** · 25th April 2009, 18:45

Originally Posted by boomer

Im an interesting sort of fella...

Go for it chick.. but scorning people publicly isn;t always teh means to the end..?!

Chick ??? the harley rider is convulsing with mirth, he says and i quote scorn she hasnt got started on that one yet.

i could say what does the Ceo do all day? that could be construed as scornful .
I could say is alienating the industry a final warning offence that might be scornful.
I could say he hasnt raised much actual cash in sponsorshiP BUT that
definetely would be scornful
and i could say i as a member no longer have the confidence that he can deliver an acceptible method of operation but that would be fact and my club is saving that for the AGM

**gixerracer** · 25th April 2009, 18:46

Originally Posted by boomer

you can burn me too.. i dont care; i've spent all your money on piss and women!

funny thing is, i'd pay $20 to watch this debacle unfold but wont pay $20 to go watch any of u moaning minnies at a SBK meet....

Well piss off out of here then as thats what this is about