Our great justice/police system part 2

**Beemer** · 16th July 2006, 11:53

Originally Posted by chanceyy

Mind you came home from work late the other week .. here is cop car off the side of the road .. mistook the lean of the side of the road .. slid right off hahahahahahahahaha he was embarrassed as hell .. made my night really

You talking about the roadworks near Levin? Been at least one fatal there and heaps of slide-offs into the ditch - including that dumb cop who tried to do a U-turn to chase someone and underestimated the width of the shoulder and the depth of the ditch! Thankfully the road we use to get out is north of those roadworks so they don't affect us at all. Big pain if you get stuck in them every day - many people turn off at Tavistock then left into Koputaroa Road and within minutes you're on SH1.

**acewheelie** · 16th July 2006, 12:06

If I caught some F**K on my property trying to get into my house to rape my wife or worse steal my bike, I'd shoot 'em.
One of my mates used to live rural and they had major problems with trespassers. He lived with his elderly mother, asked what he should do if someone broke into his house, as they were about an hour away from help, the cop said you have an AR15 sleep with it under the bed, mmmm what does that imply?

**Skyryder** · 16th July 2006, 12:39

Originally Posted by acewheelie

He lived with his elderly mother, asked what he should do if someone broke into his house, as they were about an hour away from help, the cop said you have an AR15 sleep with it under the bed, mmmm what does that imply?

As an off the cuff reply, I'd say the local cop is looking for some extra overtime.

Skyryder

**Goblin** · 16th July 2006, 12:42

Well I'm not going to bash the cops cos I was in a chase yesterday & got let off!! The nice officer saw me take off from the lights, I hit neutral and embarrassed the hell outa myself and carried on down the road in a 60 zone. Got around the corner into a 50 zone industrial area and opened it up...as you do on the last leg to home. Pulled into my mates driveway followed by disco lights. I got off my bike & went straight up to him & told him I never even saw him behind me...because I didn't! He was all agitated and asked if I had my licence on me so I gave it to him. He asked where I live & why Im at an industrial address(thought I was doing a runner). Told him the truth that I park my bike there as I only have a carport at home & my bike can be seen from the road so its safer to leave it at my mates shed. He asked how fast I was going down the industrial road but I didnt know as I wasnt looking at my speedo. I told him about hitting neutral after the lights & he said "Is that your story is it?" Yes that was the truth. I then told him it's the end of the school holidays and I was just out having a bit of stress relief. I was polite and honest with him and he said "Im not going to write you a ticket this time, but be honest, how fast were you going down that road?" I DONT KNOW! I didn't look at my speedo! Was only by chance that my rego was all up to date too, only got another couple of weeks last Thursday. So cops can use their descretion and can be reasonable if you are polite and honest with them in a traffic situation. Dont know about calling them for a hit & run or burglary tho as I've luckily never had to.

Thats the second time I've done an unintentional runner....only I got a $400 fine the first time.

**chanceyy** · 16th July 2006, 20:27

Originally Posted by Beemer

You talking about the roadworks near Levin? Been at least one fatal there and heaps of slide-offs into the ditch - including that dumb cop who tried to do a U-turn to chase someone and underestimated the width of the shoulder and the depth of the ditch! Thankfully the road we use to get out is north of those roadworks so they don't affect us at all. Big pain if you get stuck in them every day - many people turn off at Tavistock then left into Koputaroa Road and within minutes you're on SH1.

ahh yes but you could quite easily say i live in the "middle" of the roadworks hell .. and i go to shannon twice a day to tend to my horses .. but work in Levin & yes since the roadworks have started there have been 8 accidents .. 1 fatality .. previous 3 yrs .. nothing

Just waiting to see if transit are going to move the house .. since if a car came off the road now no way its gonna miss hitting me .... ( that should tell you where i live LOL )

**jaybee180** · 17th July 2006, 11:34

In regards to the oringinal story - yes you do need to make a complaint to the PCA. It's only by highlighting these sorts of things that they get attention. HOWEVER, you do need to realise that if indeed there was no one available - then there probably wasn't!

The heirarchy have just told us in Hamilton of the new recruits that we will be getting and how they will bring us up to strength - YEAH RIGHT!!! Approximately 36 cops have left this area this year already. I think we are due to get approx 40 new cops by the end of the year. You do the math! But according to the powers that be that will make us up to strength.

Them's the facts boys!

**Ozzie** · 17th July 2006, 13:10

Originally Posted by jaybee180

In regards to the oringinal story - yes you do need to make a complaint to the PCA. It's only by highlighting these sorts of things that they get attention. HOWEVER, you do need to realise that if indeed there was no one available - then there probably wasn't!

The heirarchy have just told us in Hamilton of the new recruits that we will be getting and how they will bring us up to strength - YEAH RIGHT!!! Approximately 36 cops have left this area this year already. I think we are due to get approx 40 new cops by the end of the year. You do the math! But according to the powers that be that will make us up to strength.

Them's the facts boys!

Up to strength with recruits!!!!! Look out if any experience is required!!!

Add to that, 40 new recruits, with 40 experienced baby sitters, how many effective, available, experienced officers will that leave?

What is the run in period for a cop? Rest of us, they say it is at least 6 months before a new staff member become self sufficient and has a positive impact on workflows.

**SPman** · 17th July 2006, 13:36

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

If our tax actually went to cops mate, how much goes in supporting people too lazy to work?

And I mean how stuppid is it that you can only smoke in a Marae but no other public places when they have one of the worlds worst smoking rates? That sir is the current governments one eyed logic.

start spending the taxes on things appropriatly and there is no need to raise them.

Aaaaah - but Transit are going to pay the police a "contribution" towards "road safety" now.........

**spudchucka** · 17th July 2006, 13:54

Originally Posted by 98tls

My dog sleeps in the garage.....the Fucker hates being woken up....

Thats much better than a burglar alarm as far as I'm concerned, especially if the potential burglar is one that has previously had an experience with a land shark.

**spudchucka** · 17th July 2006, 14:00

Originally Posted by Ozzie

What is the run in period for a cop? Rest of us, they say it is at least 6 months before a new staff member become self sufficient and has a positive impact on workflows.

Six months would see the average cop reasonable competent in most areas. 18 months to 3 years before they are 100% self sufficient and needing very little supervision.

**Ozzie** · 17th July 2006, 14:05

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Six months would see the average cop reasonable competent in most areas. 18 months to 3 years before they are 100% self sufficient and needing very little supervision.

What's the current turn over rate? Or another way, how long is the average length of service?

**Finn** · 17th July 2006, 14:06

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Six months would see the average cop reasonable competent in most areas. 18 months to 3 years before they are 100% self sufficient and needing very little supervision.

5 years plus and they're burnt out and turn into angry little men.

**Swoop** · 17th July 2006, 14:19

This mornings harold...

Police tackle crowd of boy racers

7.00am Monday July 17, 2006

Police spent several hours last night trying to disperse a group of about 100 boy racers who had gathered on McLaughlins Road in Wiri.

The group started gathering around 6.30pm.

"They were hooning around and throwing bottles at the police, who were trying to quell the situation," a police spokesman said.

Officers had dispersed the crowd by around 9.30pm. No arrests were made and no one was hurt.

THREE HOURS to disperse some boi ricers??? WTF???
Did they form a committee and then raise points of interest? Subcommittee involvement?

FFS lob some fecking teargas at the tossers and let them run home to mummy!

**spudchucka** · 17th July 2006, 14:23

Originally Posted by Ozzie

What's the current turn over rate? Or another way, how long is the average length of service?

Sorry, I can't give you a accurate answer on that one. The staff that are resigning, retiring, perfing etc are published in our staff news; the last issue (23 June) had 14 resignations, two retirements and two that perfed. In addition there were 9 non-sworn staff that left the police. Every issue you see cops of all experience levels leaving but I wouldn't have the faintest idea what the average length of service is.