My maori thread

[spudchucka]

Did you also know that there are six recognised dairy goat breeds in the United States: Alpine, La Mancha, Oberhasli, Nubian, Saanen, Toggenburg.
Each breed of dairy goat gives a different tasting milk. Oberhasli goats give milk that tastes closest to cow's milk.

Only a goat-shagger would know that. Did you suckle straight from Oberhasli's teat?

[The_Dover]

Only a goat-shagger would know that. Did you suckle straight from Oberhasli's teat?

let me guess spud, your dad's bigger than finn's dad isn't he?

[terbang]

I think that Political Correctness (PC) plays a big part in creating the misunderstanding that we now see between different ethnic groups in NZ and other parts of the world. PC tends to stifle direct and constructive communication and has the effect of sweeping the real issues under the mat.
The UK has had its share of tension between the Poms and Pakistani immigrants. My observation was that the Poms would speak amongst themselves, often badly, about issues with the Pakistanis and vice versa. Of course there are likely to be issues as they are the meeting point of two different races and cultures. When it came to anything official on race relations, the truth seemed to be lost amidst a load of PC babble and sweet talk. So the dissent, frustration and malice continued behind closed doors and eventually boiled over into riots in Leeds Bradford and so on. I suspect that similar has been happening in Aussie resulting in racial tensions and riots in Byron Bay recently between Other Aussies and Lebanese Aussies.
On extremes we see (here on this board as well) boorish type expression that only serves to provoke a fight versus the truth being smothered in PC honey to make it politically palatable.
The extremes don't work so what is really needed is open honest and constructive debate, allowing the real issues between Maori and others (pakeha included) to become clear. Finns first thread was definatly on one end of the spectrum and this one is now starting to float around somewhere in the middle. Full marks Finn for realising that you were a pratt, admitting it and now provoking realistic speak.

[Skyryder]

No we don't. The stats don't count all the people on benefits.

The official unemployed rates are an internationally recognised figure for unemployment based on the Household Labour Force Survey run by Statistics New Zealand.
These are the latest figures for March 2006 .

3.9% Unemployment.


Go to

http://www.jobsletter.org.nz/stt/stathome.htm


So find me a site that reputes these figures and is internationaly recognised.





Skyryder

[Finn]

I never trust any stats coming out of government. While I understand that unemployment is down, it has absolutely nothing to do with this governments policies nor does it have anything to do with the topic of this thread.

[Skyryder]

I never trust any stats coming out of government. While I understand that unemployment is down, it has absolutely nothing to do with this governments policies nor does it have anything to do with the topic of this thread.

So find me a site that reputes these figures and is internationaly recognised.

I'm still waiting Finn.

What was the topic again?? Oh I forgot. Looking for warm Fuzzies.


Skyryder

[scumdog]

I never trust any stats coming out of government. While I understand that unemployment is down, it has absolutely nothing to do with this governments policies nor does it have anything to do with the topic of this thread.

Sure the stats may not tell the truth - but they are relatively consistant to the annual fluctuations and will show a pattern regardless of the 'exact' figures.

[Finn]

Sure the stats may not tell the truth - but they are relatively consistant to the annual fluctuations and will show a pattern regardless of the 'exact' figures.

Yip, I'm happy with that. However I would like Skyryder to explain exactly what Labour have done to reduce unemployment. I take it he is talking about the same Labour that is anti business & progress?

[avgas]

I want a chocolate bar..............


















































please

Me too..... i like chocolate

[Lou Girardin]

There is considerable debate about this - the current thinking is the Moriori were NOT a seperate race and there is little if no creditable edvidence that there was a seperate society.

It was widely accepted until the Maori renaissance. Of course, it suited them to rewrite history and become the first to settle here.

[Quasievil]

It was widely accepted until the Maori renaissance. Of course, it suited them to rewrite history and become the first to settle here.

How and why would it matter ?

[Motu]

You seen photo's of the Moriori? What do they look like? They are Polynesian...same dudes man.Same as the Moa Hunters,they reckon they were here before the main landings...same dudes again.They had been coming here in dribs and drabs a long time before they decided to send out a main force.Turf War - nothing changes.

[Finn]

You can almost draw parallels between maori's & NZ and tensions between Israel & Palestine, Serbia & Croatia, etc. In the end, nobody wins.

And with the treaty industry being a huge cash machine for maori, it ain't gonna go away in a hurry.

God save the Queen (Elizabeth)

[sAsLEX]

It was widely accepted until the Maori renaissance. Of course, it suited them to rewrite history and become the first to settle here.

ummm sorry to break it to you but there was no written history as they could not write! So grandad just changed the story a bit and whammo he owned all the south island!

[mstriumph]

Oh dear.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10397096

a little crass, using something tragic like this to validate your earlier stance isn't it? especially in the midst of a thread which you [on the face of it] started specifically to apologise for that stance?

hmm ......mebbe 'finn the prodigal' isn't reborn as snow-white as he'd have us believe .................