Peter Jackson to remake Dam Busters

**Indiana_Jones** · 3rd September 2006, 23:04

How about another Bismarck movie

-Indy

**Kickaha** · 4th September 2006, 06:59

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

How about another Bismarck movie

-Indy

I'd rather a Tank movie, someone like Michael Wittman because it'd have to have Tigers in it

**Swoop** · 4th September 2006, 09:31

Originally Posted by Jim2

Or someone controversial like Heinz Knoke

Is he the author of "I flew for the Fuhrer"? He pioneered dropping bombs on the B-17 formations? A good read!

Originally Posted by Jim2

Even better if you like WWII bomber stories: Klaus Haberlen.

I do not know about this person. What is the book title? Overview if you would enlighten me please?

Secondhand bookshops with 1950's vintage books are an excellent source, but I had to resort to Amazon to obtain Hartmann and Marseille's books.

**Deano** · 4th September 2006, 10:48

Originally Posted by The_Dover

I think a dog called "African-american" would sound a bit odd in a plummy english accent.

Apparently the dog's name is quite a hot topic - just read an article in the DomPost.

How about 'Nigel' - keeps some of the old but ain't nearly as offensive ? Would also sound ok in a plummy English accent.

**Lou Girardin** · 4th September 2006, 11:23

Originally Posted by Timber020

The Germans made the rest of the worlds fighter pilots seem like part time wusses. The top 5 american aces combined shot down 160 planes, the top 5 germans shot down 1453.

That's because many of them fought in the Spanish civil war and on the Eastern front. And German pilots flew until they died, no rotation home for them.
The guys I equally admire were the Battle of Britain aces. They fought against the odds, in plane that were, at best, equal to the Germans, but usually inferior.

**Lou Girardin** · 4th September 2006, 11:25

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I'd rather a Tank movie, someone like Michael Wittman because it'd have to have Tigers in it

History channel did an entire programme on him. He was a freak, wiping out an entire company of armoured vehicles with one tank. No-one else approached his skill. (or luck)

**sAsLEX** · 4th September 2006, 11:25

Originally Posted by Deano

Apparently the dog's name is quite a hot topic - just read an article in the DomPost.

How about 'Nigel' - keeps some of the old but ain't nearly as offensive ? Would also sound ok in a plummy English accent.

what about Niger

Niger, black, a little tinged with gray.

**Krayy** · 4th September 2006, 11:33

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I'd rather a Tank movie, someone like Michael Wittman because it'd have to have Tigers in it

Best tank movie I have ever seen was "The Beast of War" about a Russian tank crew in Afghanistan. Frickin fantastic.

Don't know if it's out on DVD though...I would assume so but I've never looked for it.

**Dooly** · 4th September 2006, 11:34

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

History channel did an entire programme on him. He was a freak, wiping out an entire company of armoured vehicles with one tank. No-one else approached his skill. (or luck)

Indeed, but rightly so, his long term gunner got almost as much kudos.
His gunnery and reflexes were exceptional.

**Deano** · 4th September 2006, 11:36

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

what about Niger

Niger, black, a little tinged with gray.

"Holmes" ? A little black, a little English......

**James Deuce** · 4th September 2006, 11:50

FFS. The Dog's name was nigger. We may as well concede that the Germans won WWII if we can't get past the FACT that the world of the 1940s was a very different place to today's world.

**Deano** · 4th September 2006, 11:57

Originally Posted by Jim2

FFS. The Dog's name was nigger. We may as well concede that the Germans won WWII if we can't get past the FACT that the world of the 1940s was a very different place to today's world.

That is basically what PJ was saying in the DomPost article, and that he is remaking an original movie, warts 'n all. But he also said he is considering the name carefully.

Personally I thought Holmes was a pretty funny alternative, and ultimately said in jest.

**Squeak the Rat** · 4th September 2006, 12:27

But the point is exactly that - the world is a different place from today. There is no need to use the dogs name in todays context - it has no direct relevance to the story. Likewise if the behaviour of the aircrews doesn't meet todays moral standards we shouldn't show it warts and all. It all makes no impact on the story, and is completely unecessary. As are over the top scenes showing graphic gunshot wounds etc - what's the point.

Historical accounts are all good, but lets not get carried away.

[Edit:] I wasn't going to point out that i was being sarcastic, but on re-reading it looks exactly like what some people would say. D'oh.

**Swoop** · 4th September 2006, 12:43

Originally Posted by Jim2

FFS. The Dog's name was nigger. We may as well concede that the Germans won WWII if we can't get past the FACT that the world of the 1940s was a very different place to today's world.

My sentiments exactly. Guy Gibson named his black labrador Nigger. End of story.
If the politically correct can't handle this piece of history, they should go back to their own planet.
(I seem to remember that Nigger liked a drink of beer... Just hope PJ can find an alcoholic dog somewhere...)