The allure of Australia

**The Pastor** · 15th September 2006, 16:24

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Are there any twisties?

Not in melbourne thats for sure!

**Finn** · 15th September 2006, 16:28

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Are there any twisties?

Yip and they've got vegemite too.

**SPman** · 15th September 2006, 16:32

Originally Posted by Big Dave

one thing that emigrating has taught me is to value other cultures - and my own - a lot more.
There are plenty of subtle trans tasman differences too - but ultimately, folks is folks.

He's right, you know. When I moved here, I realised I really valued the fact that - I was a Kiwi. There are differences all around - all subtle, nothing major, just enough to make you realise you are in another culture, regardless of the general similarities.
And Ive found some great twisties - trouble is -they're all dirt with the accaisional patchy seal.
The allure of a dual purpose bike gets stronger by the day - whats that Buell like, again, Dave?

**Swoop** · 15th September 2006, 16:33

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Gold coast is 18 to 28 - 360 days of the year.

Apart from those days in summer when it gets to 40 degrees...

**onearmedbandit** · 15th September 2006, 16:57

Yeah, a mate of mine resides in Florida, reckons the only good riding days are in the winter, even Summer nights are too hot for leathers!

**Flyingpony** · 15th September 2006, 17:00

I've read about the lack of water in Aus and that is of a concern for me too, if they haven't already, they'll bring in water charges.

Also read in a magazine that fertile crop lands are slowly being destroyed because salty sea water is rising to the surface. Guess they'll be growing salt-water lobster's inland sometime in the future.

Heard one news report that a town actually voted if they wanted to recycle their sewage water into drinking water

Couldn't they just collect rain water but then again, many parts of Aus don't get much rain.

Anyhow, I'm too young to stay in just one place for the rest of my life and haven't yet done the traditional Overseas Experience journey. I don't have a student loan, so unlike some others, I won't be leaving the tax payers with a bill.

**Motu** · 15th September 2006, 17:14

Sounds like you'd have something to moan about even in Utopia - may as well just stay here with the other moaners who say they are going to leave ....

**Marknz** · 15th September 2006, 17:38

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Are there any twisties?

Fuck yes... and you can take part in events like http://www.snowyride.com.au/ Those roads are twisties, and it's all in a days ride from Canberra.

**popelli** · 15th September 2006, 17:49

there is about 1/2 million kiwis in austrailia, given the nz population that is about 1 in every 8

most who go over there do not come back

these statistics speak volumes, most people who move to aus do a damn sight better than they could in NZ

NZ by comparison is lacking in opportunities and suffers from the tall poppy syndrome

Have thought several times about returning to NZ from the UK but having made that mistake once (no work opportunities & 6 months on the dole trying to find work & restrictive social scene) before I wouldn't do it again, if I was going to move back to the southern hemisphere I'd be going to austrailia

**saltydog** · 15th September 2006, 17:50

I lived south of perth (margret river) for a year and I must say the west coasters are a different breed all together. The East coast rat race would take a bit of getting used too. Another postive is the new home subsidy they Aussie government gives to anyone building a new house....to the tune of 14k.
And remember all Australian girls are beautiful until they open there mouths.
And the guys well....will cut the grass of their best mate without a blnk of an eyelid.....

**onearmedbandit** · 15th September 2006, 18:14

Originally Posted by popelli

& restrictive social scene

Can you explain further?

**Big Dave** · 15th September 2006, 18:28

Originally Posted by Swoop

Apart from those days in summer when it gets to 40 degrees...

Read that stat - hardly ever.
The circling hills moderate the temp.

**MattRSK** · 15th September 2006, 18:35

Im going to go find out for myself. Getting a trade behind me. If I dont like it I will move on!

**SuperDave** · 15th September 2006, 18:37

Sounds like you already have every reason to leave, but don't quite want to commit. I've been to Aus recently but I've viewed it through the eyes of a visitor, not someone who is living there so it's not really a true reflection of what it's like to live there. However I did like the place very much and preferred Melbourne over Sydney.

Personally I would say that many places are very much what you make of it.

If you've got a Kiwi passport or permanent residency (which I assume you do) then packing up and moving across the ditch isn't too complicated. It's wether or not you can be arsed. Why not move over and try it out, you could always come back if you don't like it or if it's not all you expected it to be.

Not having a student loan means it'll be even easier for you to give it a shot.