Agreed.....Originally Posted by Big Dave
unless you can prove it.
Agreed.....
This weeks international insult is in Malayalam:
Thavalayolee
You Frog Fucker
One, two free, floor!
Not sure - can I have a beer or 15 to think it over?
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Benedict was, by his own admission, a member of the Hitler Youth..BUT.. ( and this is a BIG but..)
In December of 1936, Hitler Youth membership stood at just over 5 million. That same month, the Hitler Youth became obligatory and membership was required by law (Gesetz über die Hitlerjugend). This obligation was affirmed in 1939 with the Jugenddienstpflicht. Membership could be enforced even against the will of the parents. From that point, most of Germany's teenagers were incorporated into the Hitler Youth, and by 1940, the total membership reached eight million. Later war figures are difficult to calculate, since massive conscription efforts and a general call-up of boys as young as ten years old meant that virtually every young male in Germany was, in some way, connected to the Hitler Youth.
like it or not ...
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They are all a bunch of friggin' nutters.
A man in a dress and funny hat that still thinks it's 1647 and heads the worlds largest pedophile ring makes an obsucure historical point about the other team and a whole lot of other guys in dresses that live in places where razor blades are a mystery and they probably don't even know what a Pope is but are absolutely sure that it IS 1647 have a hissy fit about being called violent so they go shoot an old nun and let off a few bombs to prove they are not violent at all...
Fark me....
Religion eh! Mans hope of salvation?
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I don't disagree with what the pope said, he was just quoting another guys observations from hundreds of years ago, and merely stating that over those hundreds of years it's hard to see how far their religion has evolved? just look at the reaction "don't say I'm violent, take it back or I'll kill some one"... it was a little more polite in NZ but NZ is hardly the voice of Islam.
As for public apology, fuck that, I don't see Muslims crying for apology when "rogue" Islamic countries call for the death of other nations? it's good enough for Muslims to call for Jihad but it's not good enough for Catholics to observe that Muslims are a little violent?
(sort of off topic but)
Has anyone seen whats happening in Sudan at the moment? here's what i get when i look up "sudan national religion" in google - "Religion: Sunni Muslim 70% (in north), indigenous beliefs 25%, Christian 5% (mostly in south and Khartoum)", only people openly protesting the killing there seem to be non-muslim, the people who are running the country have declined aid?!?
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Okay I don't like the pope, I don't like the idea of A pope - as far as I'm concerned they are all a bunch of shifty no good cunts, but this one seems to be the most irresponsible one to come along in a while.
Maybe he felt the catholic church wasn't getting enough headlines in the media and the flock might start converting to islam or something.
What a retarded thing to say, its almost like we now have a george W in the vatican as well as the white house.
With the combined weight of the assine statements they both make we'll be truly fucked up the ying-yang by christmas
Why would you specfically say something that you know would inflame the islamic world, its just taunting - practically war mongering - Oh look theres a volitle situation, lets throw some petrol on it and see what happens.
It just doesn't strike me as being particularly Christian, but perhaps the pope is above such things.
***I'm not terribly keen on islamic clerics either, in fact most religious leaders are deeply suspicious people - with the POSSIBLE exception of the dalia lama***
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I'd never do that, you're bigger than me.
could this be the beginning of the end to Organized Religion?
Now, you haven't been reading Rev. chapters 17 and 18 have you..?
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Immature and proud of it.
Oh yes they did.yea .. they didnt have them in the 11th century either ...
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
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Dawnrazor
I hear you and don't disagree with your sentiments "if" you are correct about what "he said" and "why" it was so inflammatory.
To be so condemning in your response you must be very clear on what it was that the Pope said, please share it with us so that we can be so positive in condemning him too. Seeking your help on this one, John.
Slapper?
i say GOOOTHE POPE....at least he has the nuts to call a spade a spade....these jihad in the name of moo whoever loving bastards think a great day out is blowing people up so they can piss off to the land of unlimited virgins/goats....the mary poppins attitude hasnt worked so far and never will...shame its to late to do anything about them know...but at least they should be spoken about and treated with the utter contempt they deserve
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i was being fascicious Lou..
Immature and proud of it.
I thought you were a Republican.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
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hell no.. independent
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There was an interesting article in the dom this morning on this subject. Worth seeking out....
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Militants vow war as Vatican tries to calm Pope row
1.00pm Tuesday September 19, 2006
VATICAN CITY - Al Qaeda militants in Iraq vowed war on "worshippers of the cross" and protesters burned a papal effigy on Monday over Pope Benedict's comments on Islam, while Western churchmen and statesmen tried to calm passions.
Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei joined a chorus of Muslim criticism of the head of the world's 1.1 billion Roman Catholics, calling the Pope's remarks "the latest chain of the crusade against Islam started by America's (George W) Bush".
The Pontiff said on Sunday he was deeply sorry Muslims had been offended by his use of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war. But he stopped short of retracting a speech seen as portraying Islam as a religion tainted by violence.
While some Muslims were mollified by his explanation for the speech made in Germany last Tuesday, others remained furious.
"We tell the worshipper of the cross (the Pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya," said a web statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq's branch of al Qaeda.
"We shall break the cross and spill the wine," said the statement, posted on Sunday on an internet site often used by al Qaeda and other militant groups.
In Iraq's southern city of Basra, up to 150 demonstrators chanted slogans and burned a white effigy of the Pope.
"No to aggression!", "We gagged the Pope!", they chanted in front of the governor's office in the Shi'ite city.
In Egypt a parliamentary committee called for the expulsion of the Vatican envoy if the Pope did not apologise and in Kuwait Muslim clerics said his Sunday address "does not amount to an apology because he said Muslims had misunderstood his speech".
"He must declare frankly he made a mistake and must pledge not to repeat such false accusations against Islam," they said.
Criticisms were also made by Muslims in the United States, China, Indonesia, and by Chechen and Azeri Muslims.
With some clerics calling it the start of a new Christian crusade against Islam, the Vatican has instructed its envoys in Muslim countries to explain Pope Benedict's words on Islam.
The Pope had referred to criticism of the Prophet Mohammad by 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who said everything the Prophet brought was evil "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".
But he said on Sunday this was not his view and he favoured frank dialogue with Islam. His new Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said Holy See nuncios (ambassadors) in Muslim countries would visit government and religious leaders.
The European Commission called for Pope Benedict's remarks not to be "deliberately taken out of context" and for freedom of speech to be respected. French President Jacques Chirac refused to criticise him, but called for a more diplomatic language.
"It is not my role or my intention to comment on the Pope's statements. I simply want to say, on a general level ... that we must avoid anything that excites tensions between peoples or between religions," Chirac said on Europe 1 radio.
"We must avoid making any link between Islam, which is a great, respected and respectable religion, and radical Islamism, which is a totally different activity and one of a political nature," Chirac added.
The head of the world's Anglican church, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, defended Benedict.
"The Pope has already issued an apology and I think his views on this need to be judged against his entire record, where he has spoken very positively about dialogue," said Williams, the spiritual leader of 77 million Anglicans worldwide.
Questions had been raised on whether a papal visit to Turkey in November could go ahead, but Ankara, while calling his remarks "ugly", said there were no plans to call it off.
In Somalia, an Italian nun was killed on Sunday in an attack one Islamist source said could be linked to the dispute. The Vatican said it hoped the killing was "an isolated event".
The Pope said on Sunday that he might elaborate on the crisis on Wednesday, when he gives a regular public audience at St Peter's in the Vatican before large crowds of pilgrims.
In the United States, the Council of Islamic Organisations of Greater Chicago which represents 400,000 Muslims in the area said that from Sunday's speech it "does not appear the Pope is distancing himself from his Tuesday statement".
It urged the Pope to grasp a "a great opportunity to use words of reconciliation and we hope he will do so soon".- REUTERS
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