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    If he's left an unsafe job site... isn't that a matter for OSH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattRSK View Post
    If its that bad take the glass out and put some plywood up. Its better than having dead kids!
    The whole front door surround is rotten. There is nowhere to attach the plywood. We're having the whole thing reframed, new glass, new door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    We are waiting for a quote from a sparky for some exterior lights, have been for nearly 7 YEARS, found someone else in the meantime.. But while having the new gargre and office built I have been appalled at the lack of accountability some tradesmen have to their (potential) customers. If Mstrs ran his business that way, i doubt he'd have a business anymore.. it beats me how some of these guys are still going.
    Quote for exterior lights? I'm an Electrician and wouldn't waste my time traveling to your place, quoting the job that would only take a few hrs to do and I'm expected to wait in line behind 10 other sparkies to compete for the pleasure to take on your most important priority job. A job like that I usualy do an estimate over the phone, but it's important to keep the customer informed of things like progress, problems, price and being generaly honest about the work load at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwilde View Post
    Quote for exterior lights? I'm an Electrician and wouldn't waste my time traveling to your place, quoting the job that would only take a few hrs to do and I'm expected to wait in line behind 10 other sparkies to compete for the pleasure to take on your most important priority job. A job like that I usualy do an estimate over the phone, but it's important to keep the customer informed of things like progress, problems, price and being generaly honest about the work load at the time.
    It's impossible to get a tradesman to provide a quote, let alone turn up at your house. If you didn't visit the site to do the quote you then provide yourself an out for charging a good 200 or 300% more than the quote, because you "didn't understand the particular requirements of the site" when you quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwilde View Post
    Quote for exterior lights? I'm an Electrician and wouldn't waste my time traveling to your place, quoting the job that would only take a few hrs to do and I'm expected to wait in line behind 10 other sparkies to compete for the pleasure to take on your most important priority job. A job like that I usualy do an estimate over the phone, but it's important to keep the customer informed of things like progress, problems, price and being generaly honest about the work load at the time.
    He was the one who wanted to come around to see the job, I would have been happy with an estimate over the phone. His work premises are about 300 metres from our house and he was going to call in on his way home. I guess he got lost!
    Jim have you thought about giving the door a wee 'nudge' so it becomes an insurance job - it might get done quicker..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    It's impossible to get a tradesman to provide a quote, let alone turn up at your house. If you didn't visit the site to do the quote you then provide yourself an out for charging a good 200 or 300% more than the quote, because you "didn't understand the particular requirements of the site" when you quoted.
    For a job thats going to take less than a day I give the option of an estimate or hourly rate. By the time I drive to your home, check out the job, drive back again and write up a formal quote with no way of knowing if I have the job or not? If I do end up with the job I've got to listen to all the bullshit excusses as to why the cheque hasn't arrived yet. Is that what you expect a qualified tradesperson to put up with? You may not be like that, but so many are. No wonder I only work for industrial companies now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    He was the one who wanted to come around to see the job, I would have been happy with an estimate over the phone. His work premises are about 300 metres from our house and he was going to call in on his way home. I guess he got lost!
    Jim have you thought about giving the door a wee 'nudge' so it becomes an insurance job - it might get done quicker..
    I see your point, think of it this way, if he cant be bothered to comunicate with you in a decent way, would you want him wiring your lights?

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    Absolutely not! They have a way of weeding themselves out of my contact list that suits me, I guess. Just recently, we had a guy turn up to quote on making and installing those vertical blind things in the new office. He gave us a price we could live with and said he would be around at 8.30 am on the Friday to install it - this was the Friday before, so he had a week to do the job. Mstrs didn't book any work for that day until about 10.30, to give the guy time to do the job. At 11 on the agreed day, he rang the guy up to see where he was - the order was still in his car and had not even been placed with the manufacturer! WTF?? We rang the opposition company, they visited Friday avo and installed the blind on the following Monday. That's another one off my list of who to do business with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwilde View Post
    For a job thats going to take less than a day I give the option of an estimate or hourly rate. By the time I drive to your home, check out the job, drive back again and write up a formal quote with no way of knowing if I have the job or not? If I do end up with the job I've got to listen to all the bullshit excusses as to why the cheque hasn't arrived yet. Is that what you expect a qualified tradesperson to put up with? You may not be like that, but so many are. No wonder I only work for industrial companies now.
    I've paid a 50% deposit on the job.

    I paid the sparky who put my Drivaire in the day he did it, with cash, albeit via Internet banking.

    I don't care how many people haven't paid you. I would. I'm sick of the attitude that gets dished out by the least professional group of "businessmen" in NZ when you point out that they treat people like criminals at best, or at worst they steal your money.

    How are we supposed to maintain a standard of living if you can't get "professionals" to come to your house to fix stuff when it breaks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    We are waiting for a quote from a sparky for some exterior lights, have been for nearly 7 YEARS,
    Luckily the regulations have changed and the homeowner is now allowed to do electrical work on your own home so long as you do not wire anything into the main circuit board. Lights are a doddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Luckily the regulations have changed and the homeowner is now allowed to do electrical work on your own home so long as you do not wire anything into the main circuit board. Lights are a doddle.
    I charge double to repair stuff ups by people being weekend sparkies. BTW, you still have to have a registered Electrician cert' any work you do. If not, when your shoddy wiring burns your home to the ground the insurance won't pay out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwilde View Post
    I charge double to repair stuff ups by people being weekend sparkies. BTW, you still have to have a registered Electrician cert' any work you do. If not, when your shoddy wiring burns your home to the ground the insurance won't pay out.
    And yet it is almost impossible to get a sparky to turn up to a residential property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    And yet it is almost impossible to get a sparky to turn up to a residential property.
    Yes. They are trained on the same billing system that plumbers use... "About a bazillion dollars approximately, PLUS gst. Parts will be extra... and did I mention the travelling time?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Yes. They are trained on the same billing system that plumbers use... "About a bazillion dollars approximately, PLUS gst. Parts will be extra... and did I mention the travelling time?"
    Sounds like a bit of the green eyed monster? What stopped you from slogging your guts out for 4yrs on below min' wage and getting all the shit jobs under the sun? That goes for any tradesperson. Why don't you have a crack at lawyers, or banks? The banks actualy charge for a non service while loaning out your money for a profit.

    Charging for a bit of traveling time is a must while doing small run a round jobs. Most forget it on a resonable sized job.

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    It always makes me laugh when people complain about tradesman's charges....like how much do they or their company charge for their job? I drive a 17 yr old car and ride a 9 yr old bike.I doubt if you'll find many tradesmen in the upper income bracket.....so how come those who are think they are always getting ripped off?
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