School shootings

[scumdog]

i notice half the wankers moaning about the yoof of today are forty somethings with teenage kids??

it's your fuckin generation doing the damage guys, sort it out.

It's YOUR generation cretin, sort yourselves out mya pronto!!

[The_Dover]

no scumdog, blame the parents, remember.........

i'm not a daddy yet and my puppy is well behaved......

[scumdog]

no scumdog, blame the parents, remember.........

i'm not a daddy yet and my puppy is well behaved......

So you never screwed up yet, d'you think you'll keep your progeny under control - or will you just blame the Gummint???

And if you haven't screwed up, how did your parents do the 'right thing'?

[kro]

the whole problem started when the idiots said we couldnt lay the strap to the little shitbags..

TAKE OFF THOSE FREAKING BLACK CLOTHES YOU LITTLE SHIT.. *BIFF* GET A GODDAMN JOB AND QUIT YOUR MOANING *BIFF* TURN OFF THAT FUCKING FIDDY CENT NOISE BEFORE I BLAST YOU INTO NEXT WEEK *BIFF*

lack of discipline and folding under the PC Brigade pressure .. let them know they are loved and if they fuck up , there WILL be consequences .. not saying keep them on a short leash or beat the dogshit out of them. .. but let them know there are boundaries and every action has an equal reaction

i blame the parents and the fucking hip hop GANGSTA bullshit this generation is being force fed.. we had Led Zep and Sabbath when i was coming up ,,yes it pissed our folks off and it was 'devil music' but i didnt glorify violence and teach them that life is cheap and all women are 'Ho's'.. worst thing it made me do is smoke weed and flag school

my kid ever calls a woman a 'Ho" he will be receiving a size 13 combat boot up the ass in a big blue hurry

This could have been typed by me Sarge, you are a man after my own heart, and I salute you. Poetry son, pure poetry.

[Swoop]

Guns dont kill people ra ra ra. This is true, but the fact that anyone over 16 in some states can get there hands on a range of weopons legally that would make your average mujahadeen come in his pants.

Knives are the "bargain basement" tool of choice.
A rock has been used (unfortunately) to kill recently - from an overbridge.
They are ALL just a TOOL of the operator.

The source of the problem (the human hanging on the end of all of them) is not being dealt with, either before or after the crime is committed.

[Hitcher]

It's hard to feel sympathy for Americans shooting each other when they refuse to do anything about gun controls.

[SARGE]

It's hard to feel sympathy for Americans shooting each other when they refuse to do anything about gun controls.

check the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution..

maybe NZ will ban hammers and blocks of concrete ( and suitcases, and steak knives ..)

dont blame the hammer for building a leaky house man ..

[Timber020]

Im all to aware that they are just the tool.

Risk management is about manageing the things that may cause harm or damage to people and property. If im looking after a few kids on one starts beating the others with a bat, there is the risk the other kids could get seriously hurt, so I take away the bat and try to correct the kids behaviour through punishment, postive reinforcement etc. If I did nothing but tell the kid off and leave the bat there, I would be considered an idiot for leaving the other kids in danger.

Keeping every kid in check is impossible, taking away the ability for them to kill dozens is probably the only practicle thing that will reduce the severity of these incidents.

I love it when people say "they could just use a knife/pipe/stick/baseball bat etc" I cant imagine colombine being much of a massacre if the kids just had bats. Look at that kid in canada, only one person killed because he only had a .22, now if he had something with more grunt, that would have been a real massacre.

Ive owned a few rifles and shotguns in my time, I used to hunt nearly every day and have hunted in a few countrys other than this one, and at no time did I find I needed a pistol, SMG, or assault rifle. (okay I admit shooting goats with a sks and varmet was fun, and roos with a norico was a kick) but there no real need for them by real hunters.

[SARGE]

Im all to aware that they are just the tool.

Risk management is about manageing the things that may cause harm or damage to people and property. If im looking after a few kids on one starts beating the others with a bat, there is the risk the other kids could get seriously hurt, so I take away the bat and try to correct the kids behaviour through punishment, postive reinforcement etc. If I did nothing but tell the kid off and leave the bat there, I would be considered an idiot for leaving the other kids in danger.

Keeping every kid in check is impossible, taking away the ability for them to kill dozens is probably the only practicle thing that will reduce the severity of these incidents.

I love it when people say "they could just use a knife/pipe/stick/baseball bat etc" I cant imagine colombine being much of a massacre if the kids just had bats. Look at that kid in canada, only one person killed because he only had a .22, now if he had something with more grunt, that would have been a real massacre.

when you manage too much risk .. you end up with a nana state.. i personally believe in less government and more personal responsibility..

expectant parents should have the chance at parenting classes that actually TEACH something more than how to change a nappy and shit like that .. they should be heavy on psychology of the child and the young mind .. have them for each stage of the childs life ( get a Bs in parenting from AUT maybe?) the government should fund these 100% ..a scheme like this WILL lower crime rates, WILL lower numbers on the benefit and WILL add to a higher standard of living overall..it would be an investment in NZ's future .. might take a couple generations to bear fruit but i think it would build a wicked foundation

turn the prisons into shopping malls man ..

[Paul in NZ]

End of the day...

This sicko wanker goes into a school full of peaceful people and kills because of an incident 20 years ago. Seems he admitted to his wife molesting underage kids 20 years ago... and something 'else' that was worse that he would not go into detail about...

So the intention was suicide and he takes a few other inoccents with him...

I guess it makes him noteable... He will be famous...

Screw this - I see this as a combination of problems, the cult of personality where fame is all, often for doing nothing worthwhile. As many people would know John Lennons assasins name as would know John Lennons when really, we should have just executed the cunt on the spot and buried him in a ditch. Who cares who he is or what drove him to it?

Then we have the redemptionists. No matter what you do you can be rehabilitated, there there it's OK, it's not your fault you are ill... Stuff that, some things cannot be forgiven and they should not be forgiven. Anything else ends in anarchy.

Oh well - enough fire and brimstone from me.

[SARGE]

Screw this - I see this as a combination of problems, the cult of personality where fame is all, often for doing nothing worthwhile. As many people would know John Lennons assasins name as would know John Lennons when really, we should have just executed the cunt on the spot and buried him in a ditch. Who cares who he is or what drove him to it?

reason #4345 why, when the revolutions starts , i'm killing all the reporters first ..

[Paul in NZ]

reason #4345 why, when the revolutions starts , i'm killing all the reporters first ..

Makes sense to me but leave a few for the story about us storming the Beehive OK?

[SARGE]

Makes sense to me but leave a few for the story about us storming the Beehive OK?

Big Dave can take care of that for us ... he's still uncorrupted ( keep an eye on him though..)

[The Pastor]

give me one led zep or sabbath or any devil music song that glorified murder or called women 'ho's'..

Black Sabbath - Killing Yourself To Live
Black Sabbath - In for the kill

ozzy's no more tears is about a serial killer.. not sure if its glorifiying it though

[SARGE]

Black Sabbath - Killing Yourself To Live

bullshit.. the song is about working yourself to death and not enjoying life

Black Sabbath - In for the kill

not about cold blooded murder ..that album was released in 86 and featured Glenn Huges on vocals ..Sabbath of that era used alot of fantasy elements (LoR etc).. that song i about a fantasy/ medieval battle.. there is a difference between murder and combat

nice try rent-boy