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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    it was his personal weapon and i believe that he was wearing it at the time
    In that case then it shouldve taken 5 secs.

    see I didnt quote ya either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    In that case then it shouldve taken 5 secs.

    see I didnt quote ya either


    from what i hear from Dan at Colemans.. Greg warned him 3 times and the guy kept advancing .. he was apparently wanting a gun to kill himself with ..
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    Fuck. Well he damn near got his wish, and if Greg warned him then I see nothing wrong with how the situation panned out. I feel sorry for Greg though, being put through all this shit by the average NZ'er who would have pissd themselves after crawling into a little ball.
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    Unless the guy dropped his knife before he got shot.... Even then I'd say hes in the right.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The Carvells know some damn good lawyers...

    Prosecution would have a hell of a time.
    But it'd still cost between $50,000 and $100,000 to defend it, and you don't get your money back if you are found not guilty.

    One of Machiavelli's items of advice to the Prince was "Be well advised." Never ask generals should you go to war, generals always answer yes to that question.

    So the Police ask lawyers should they go to court.
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    They used to have a really big dog in that store, I guess it's not too well trained, but the guy deserved it, any one who tries to rob a gun store with only a machete needs to be taken out of the gene pool

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    Given the nature of this case, I suspect that it probably will go to trial. Using a firearm for self-defence is a big deal in New Zealand. But unless there are circumstances here that haven't been made public, I doubt a jury would convict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyLuka View Post
    if this guy gets prosecuted, it will be a real wake up call to the injustice of our so called "justice" system. I mean, if a dude is robbing my house, and he falls over and breaks his ankle, I get sued? what the hell? Sometimes i really loose faith in the human race...
    You reckon???
    There's been plenty of other instances of people getting done (sometimes jailed) for defending themselves, their family or their property.
    Two sad facts: criminals have all the rights in this country and the court system has NOTHING to do with justice.
    And it isn't the human race at fault per se, just the division of it that makes the rules in this part of the world (and a few others). In some countries, the pleece actually encourage the use of firearms and booby-traps for self defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What? View Post
    And it isn't the human race at fault per se, just the division of it that makes the rules in this part of the world (and a few others). In some countries, the pleece actually encourage the use of firearms and booby-traps for self defense.
    i heard a rumor that in SA they were selling car "Flame Thrower" kits for carjackings .. any Seffas care to confirm?


    in the US.. if you are home when your house is invaded and you bust a few rounds into the perp, as long as it is a frontal shot and he falls 100% within your house ( no fingers hanging out over the door jam..) then it is a justified kill and although it WILL be investigated, it is unlikely to be prosecuted ..


    if you just wound him however .. expect that the dickhead will sue you..best to go for a double tap and remove that possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    i heard a rumor that in SA they were selling car "Flame Thrower" kits for carjackings .. any Seffas care to confirm?
    It was fitted to diplomatic BMWs for a while, but then thy took them off because the BG's didnt know if the perps were dead, so they shot them as well. Something about overkill

    I know they were invented and used for trials, not sure if they are sold to the public.

    EDIT: Just read, they are now banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Frankly I'm still amazed the guy was able to pull a gun from a secure place, open a box of shells, load the gun, take aim and then fire in the space of time it took the other guy to open the door and commence his advance.

    Respect - he must be as skilled as Lee Harvey Oswald was in getting a rapid stream of shots from an antique rifle!

    Impressive.
    yup wondered this myself, as even knowing the cost i had with keeping all my rifles in a bloody costly safe,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    I wouldve loosed 2 shots, both head.
    I'd go for kneecups. You can't really assault somebody from a wheelchair.

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    Let me know if he needs some $$ dude.
    Yep, me too. If that's not a worthy cause, I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Gerbil View Post
    I'd go for kneecups. You can't really assault somebody from a wheelchair.
    Yea, but you can still steal the tax payers money. Besides, you would be helping cleaning the gene pool
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    Just rang the shop and they're going to make sure it's very very public if it ever goes to prosecution. I'll happily co-ordinate contributions to the defence fund if an alternate system isn't in place already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    Just rang the shop and they're going to make sure it's very very public if it ever goes to prosecution. I'll happily co-ordinate contributions to the defence fund if an alternate system isn't in place already.

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