Whale rider chick pregnant at 16

[Quasievil]

before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Interested to know why you think racisim is only held in the domain of white people?

[Mr. Peanut]

He he, I think I've had as many bites as I'm going to get now.

The first part of my post is relevant, the rest is to prove my point - and that is no one likes being judged based on sweeping generalisations or comparisons with other people based on wealth, race, demographic or anything else for that matter.

So why are some ignorant enough to start spouting off assumptions that she (Keisha) will be on the DPB? or that it is wrong to have have a child so early in life? And all the other bullshit.

It stinks in here of ignorance and racism.

And Fish, you're the worst troll ever.

Because it's funny

[roogazza]

Hate to rain on everyone's soapbox, but from the world's view this little girl is a nobody who once starred in a forgettable film from a little country at the bottom of the world.

There are more people in Sydney than than whole of NZ!! Nobody is talking about her, nobody cares!! More newstime was given to the fact that a 78cm model of the USS Enterprise NCC1701-D from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" sold for more than $500,000 USD.

She's just another teenager, and that's all! If she were white and lived in Dunedin, nobody in NZ would care. BTW, before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Did she make the news because she has a poofteenth of maori blood in her , she was in a movie , or she is another Stat ? I guess we have to find some local news. You're right though , nobody gives a shit !!!! G.

[GN1NiteStnd]

Did she make the news because she has a poofteenth of maori blood in her , she was in a movie , or she is another Stat ? I guess we have to find some local news. You're right though , nobody gives a shit !!!! G.

Its sort of good in a way that she got into the headlines, that means that the news people were scraping the bottom of the barrel for any news, which meant that there wasn't enough bad news eg murders, terrorism, car crashes etc.
Yet the negitive out-weighs the positive in this instance, I doesnt even deserve to be mentioned on the news. This is just another example of a growing problem in NZ and no doubt many other countries in the world, it would probably allow young girls to think that it is alright. Especially when Ive heard that shes telling people she planned it all along! That is just wrong.

[Wytch]

Pregnant at 16.. *shock horror* .. Who the hell cares?

This young woman has her whole life ahead of her.. she may be a success.. she may not.. she might marry the father.. she may not.

This is no more a racial issue than we make it.

[Pixie]

This is disgusting. What message does this send? As if young maori girls needed any more motivation to breed.

She was an accidental star and will be short lived. By the time her acting career is over, she'll have 7 kids and will be an honorary member of the DPB.

No ,she'll be a Hollywood superstar.
Like Rena Owen,Remuera Morrison and every other maori flavour of the week

[oldrider]

BTW, before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Goodness me Hillbilly, I guess that qualification means something to you but to me it just means that you are part Aboriginal!

Congratulations, be proud of who you are!

Does being part Aboriginal (or other dark skinned ethnic race) automatically award you some right to understand and be an authority on "racism"? I think not.

This foolish notion that only white skinned people are racist is bloody ridiculous!

Not a personal attack, just my personal observation on your comment. Cheers John.

[Pixie]

I just want to say... I don't think there is a more stressful, hard job then being a solo mum or dad, They need as much support as they can get... just my two cents.

Actually,in the case of the ethnic subset of society this thread refers to,the hard work of raising the child usually falls on the grandmother

[jrandom]

the rest is to prove my point

I do like the spelling mistakes. Were they intentional?

it is wrong to have have a child so early in life?

Yes, it is, given certain assumptions. Having one at 16 is very, very wrong if you plan on looking after it yourself, quite apart from the fact that everyone changes enormously between 16 and, say, 26.

If you're effectively being a surrogate for mums or aunties who want a baby but can't really have their own, well, I suppose that's fine if everyone's cool with it. Traditional Maori culture aside (and how much of that is truly left?) most of NZ is much more 'nucular family', though. 99% of teen pregnancies may get left with the older generation to look after simply because grandma and grandpa know what would happen if they didn't devote their lives to the poor unasked-for child.

It stinks in here of ignorance...

You expected maybe only the cream of society on this forum?

And Fish, you're the worst troll ever.

I haven't trolled for ages. I'm not an alter any more. When I was, I don't think you could have supported that accusation, though...

[judecatmad]

It's hard to spent time being a kid when there's so much pressure from society to force you to grow up as soon as possable. In this time where it's common for both parents to work long hours, you can be left on your own for most of a day so have to take on tasks and responsibilities(sp?) that a while ago (when a 16 year old was still a 'kid') would have been left up to their parents.
Some-what the social scene and drinking age I think is to blame...partying, drinking...then ending up in bed with someone you don't know isn't un-common..(this starts at around the age of...fourteen now )
And we wonder why the teen pregnancy rate is so high...

All this coming from a 17 year old who's seen that scene....it's not a pretty one

Seraph - the 'you' statements in this do not necessarily relate to you, so don't take any of this rant personally.

I have to disagree completely - blaming boredom or too much responsibility early on for kids getting pregnant, getting into drugs, causing damage to property etc etc is BS and a reflection of the 'it's not my fault' mentality that pervades our society these days. It's not pressure from society that should be blamed - it's a poor early upbringing and denial of personal responsibility (due to lack of consequences when you stuff up).

1) If the kids had had the correct upbringing in the first place, they would be better equipped to handle the boredom that occasionally comes around, societal pressures or the life events that cause them to have to take on early responsibility.

2) Regardless of upbringing, everyone over the age of 10 should have an understanding of what's right and what's wrong and what's appropriate for the age that you are (I think it's called 'the law'....something like that - if you're under-age, then you really shouldn't be doing it; if it's not OK for grown-ups then you too should not be doing it; if it hurts, maims, causes distress then stop it; if you're bored, go for a run or go and play on your bike instead of tagging everything in sight; and if, at the end of the day, you get caught breaking the law or get caught out doing something you really shouldn't, for God's sake, don't bleat about the fact that your parents work long hours and are not there to wait on your every whim - they work long hours to keep a roof over your head, to give you electronic gadgets galore, to feed and clothe you and to keep their own sense of self-worth rather than going on the DPB).

By the time you're about 10, all of the ground-work should have been done and if it hasn't, you should be old enough at that point to have a sense of right vs. wrong and enough will-power to resist temptation (be it drugs, sex, alcohol or whatever tickles your fancy as a young teen or pre-teen). Unless you've lived in a bubble all of your life, you will know something of the world and its expectations of its members of society.

I can understand and maybe forgive a first misdemeanour (depending on severity) but to keep on blaming others' for your mistakes/ignorance is wrong - at that point, it's all on your own shoulders or, at least, it should be.

My mum died when I was 13 and I was regularly left home alone by my dad due to both his work and social lives (3am was not an uncommon return time for him). I was also left to my own devices pretty much every weekend. Had to grow up pretty quick and take on all the responsibilities of running a house AND going to school and I still managed to get a damn good education and stay out of trouble.

I'm not advocating leaving kids home alone, or forcing kids to grow up before they are ready, but I'd personally say that most of the younger social issues today are due to the removal of any responsibility for your own actions and the complete lack of consequences for the same (read "nanny state"). There's also a huge lack of parental guidance and discipline at a very young age and that has a really big impact on who we grow up to be.

Now, back to Keisha - yes, her parents were very wrong to be leaving her to do whatever she pleased with her b/f of 3 years, his parents were also very wrong to be leaving him to do whatever he pleased with a (then) 13 year old. But....they (K and b/f) both should have known better.

And yes, it's a sad thing that her Hollywood career is now most probably over and yes, she should have thought a lot more about her public life before going ahead and blindly doing whatever it was she wanted to do (or more likely, couldn't be bothered doing...). She should have known better -especially since the age of consent in California is actually 18. There we go again with the breaking the law thing......

Yes, it does reflect badly on NZ (it shouldn't but it does) but take heart that most Yanks really don't know NZ even exists, let alone where we are in relation to the rest of the world.....

And yes, probably the saddest thing is that she really is living up to the stereotype.

But if she's happy and he's happy then hey, who cares? Hedonism is what it's all about these days.....isn't it?

[Fishy]

She lives in Glen Innes, I'm surprised she didn't get up the duff earlier. The girls in that area are normally preggers by about 14.

[SARGE]

my neice is 19.. she just had her 3rd kid..first was at 15.. her B/F is a DNA dead end.. wont pay to support her or the kid.. beats the stuffing out of her at every opportunity..my sister now is forced to raise Peggy and her spawn while holding down 2 jobs.. Peggy wont work..


but she LOVES him ( "uncle D... please stop hitting him .. i love him...")


her life is planned...

[riffer]

Crikey Sarge. That's pretty sad.

[GN1NiteStnd]

I am the product of a teenage pregnancy, my parents arent the greatest match, but they are keeping it together for the kids. My mother has been extremely strict with us all, in an effort to stop us from doing the same thing, but that isnt the best way to go about it. No boyfriends until you have finished you education (includes EIT), no after school job, no parties, no alcohol, no license, bedtime at 8.30, and she kept that up until I moved out at almost 19. Took me that long to relise that it wasn't normal. I ended up going to frog's house one day, yip she finally let up on the boyfriend thing, and not coming back. I rang her up to say if she didn't let up I wasn't coming home, and she just screamed through the phone so I hung up on her. I tried again once a day for about two weeks (holidays) I ended up coming for my stuff when they were at work/school. But they had hidden my computer, with my assignments on it, so I was forced to meet them in person. When I finally meet with them they decided that if I wanted my computer I had to leave my bed behind. What the?! But now we all get along fine, my family members opened up to me after I moved out about how they were so glad I was out of there.

[Lias]

Silly girls should have remember "up the bum no babies!"