RG100!! race report - VMCC Round 6 - The finale

[vtec]

Hey man, you can't tell me that a 125 cc two stroke is easier to run and maintain than say a 150cc streestock machine. Firstly the engine is putting out 45 Hp from 125 cc's... that's 360hp per litre... now bugger me if you aren't going to have problems keeping that going. The maintenance schedule is a bitch, and if you don't do it, your only going cost yourself more money.

I've talked to plenty of people about 125's, and I have asked them what is required. And regular rebuilds is part of that. Secondly, you constantly have to play around with jetting to suit different tracks.

Thirdly, when you have to take a machine apart and put it back together as often as you do a 125 gp bike, all sorts of things can go wrong. I've seen it happen plenty, they have reliability issues because there is so many different places where human error can affect them aswell.

Leonie Rogers is one person that I have got my mental image of the RS125 from. And I've seen what has to go on in the pits... what a mission for a beginner bike.

However, the results can be impressive... ie. Jay Dibbens. But I've heard there has been huge investment in his machine... third hand info, so I don't know how true it is.

I'm guessing you've got a 125gp bike for sale?

Four strokes is what he will end up racing, so I agree, let him make an informed decision on what he thinks is a suitable class. Just know that my opinion is also allowed to be taken into account aswell as yours.

[Two Smoker]

I've thought about what you were saying about your future race class. I think Streetstock might be fruitless for you, cause you would be on your own. 125's are a pain to run and maintain and setup, but in the right hands can give awesome results. However, 125's are also a bit of a dead end, as you have to learn to ride a largish difficult 4 stroke if you want to progress your racing career. If I was you I would go 4 stroke ASAP, you're still very young, so now is the time to adapt before you get too used to 2 stroke. You may have noticed that the MotoGP guys all went from 2 stroke to 4 stroke, but the difference there, is that they get track time every single day of their lives to learn how to ride their bikes fast. You won't get that, so you have to start to learn how to ride big 4 strokes ASAP. Just my 2cents.

Jay Lawrence, Sam Smith, Nick Cole... Just a couple names i can think of off the top of my head that did 125's...

Well done Glen on the second place in the championship

[vtec]

If he was in Europe, hell yeah, I'd say 125's are good way to go, but in NZ we just don't get the numbers in that class. Nearly all (not all) of the good riders are in Superlite Superbike and Supersport. He would end up on his lonesome in the 125's, and I don't think that is such a good thing.

P.S. Did I mention I'm just not a fan of having to run any 2 stroke... having owned an ex-racing Pepsi replica RGV250 as my first ever motorcycle.

[k14]

If he was in Europe, hell yeah, I'd say 125's are good way to go, but in NZ we just don't get the numbers in that class. Nearly all (not all) of the good riders are in Superlite Superbike and Supersport. He would end up on his lonesome in the 125's, and I don't think that is such a good thing.

Well i rest my case then.

Yes all of the good riders are in superbikes and supersport, but I ask, where were they 2 or 3 years ago??? Don't think I need to answer the question for you.

P.S. Yes I have got a 125 for sale at the moment, its very likely that it is going to a fellow kber. I don't like the insinuation that the only reason I'm talking them up is because I have one for sale. I am saying it cause its the truth.

[vtec]

Well i rest my case then.

Yes all of the good riders are in superbikes and supersport, but I ask, where were they 2 or 3 years ago??? Don't think I need to answer the question for you.

P.S. Yes I have got a 125 for sale at the moment, its very likely that it is going to a fellow kber. I don't like the insinuation that the only reason I'm talking them up is because I have one for sale. I am saying it cause its the truth.

Hehe, it was a good guess though. I'm still sticking to my opinion that 4stroke is the way forward.

If I was rich and had the time, I would love to get a 250gp bike, because the gp 2strokers are the best cornering bikes in the world, and that is where you have the fun. But IN MY OPINION they are just too damn impractical for people on very ordinary budgets, and with limited time, and to end up in a class where there is very limited competition... the limited competition being the biggest hindrance.

There is a net loss of 125 gp bikes every year. But that's good in my opinion, as it makes it more obvious as to which classes you need to race in.

And yes, it is light and day the difference between riding a supersport and riding a 125, despite the fact that they can often do similar laptimes... I should have addressed that earlier. It's light and day even between the CBR250 and the CBR600... a massive difference that will take me more time to make up. The difference isn't so much getting used to the power, but much more getting used to the handling characteristics, and getting strong enough to be able to ride the 600 fast.

[Sketchy_Racer]

125s are a great motorcycle. No doubt about it.

I am very keen on one.

But there will be alot of thought put into this decision.

Thanks for awesome replys guys!!!



- Oh and feel free to express you feelings about what bikes a re good etc... the more i know of peoples opinions, the better

[mikey]

a good bike is a stolen one. second sucks. haha

[vtec]

a good bike is a stolen one. second sucks. haha

You're a funny sack Mikey. A stolen bike is only good if it seriously injures the dickhead thief riding it... I think I better stop polluting Glen's thread now.

[texmo]

Cool bro, Congrats with the second.
As for the 125's well one beat me in SS so they cant be all bad.
Aint shaun harris building up a couple of sv650's?

[Sketchy_Racer]

a good bike is a stolen one. second sucks. haha

Second's better than not racing.... Ya meat sack....

Oh and Tex,

Yeah mate i heard about those 650s. But once again, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[texmo]

Second's better than not racing.... Ya meat sack....

Oh and Tex,

Yeah mate i heard about those 650s. But once again, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Leave school get two jobs and take out a bank loan. Soudns like a plan to me.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Have left school. Got a good job, to young to get a loan.

Damn

[texmo]

Get a second job. You can get a loan if your parents will sign one little bit of papper. saying that if you dont pay they will....

[Sketchy_Racer]

parents?

Signing to give me money?


You, my friend, are a funny funny person :

[Sparky Bills]

You did bloody well to beat Neil. He was pretty fired up, so to stay ahead of him you must have been flying!

Good shit bro!

Now go put on some weight you skinny bastard, so that fatter heavier people can keep up! (not looking at Neil at all! )