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    I don't believe it. The idiot has broken two $1000 dollar each hand blown glass door panels and is suggesting we use our insurance to fix them. He "claims" he told us there was a chance of breaking them.

    What do I do? I'm being fucked over by this guy and there's nothing I can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I don't believe it. The idiot has broken two $1000 dollar each hand blown glass door panels and is suggesting we use our insurance to fix them. He "claims" he told us their was a chance of breaking them.

    What do I do? I'm being fucked over by this guy and there's nothing I can do.
    Bet he never 'told' you that you'd be paying for them either way??
    The components are not yours until the job is finished and completely paid for. Breakage by the installer is not your problem - it's his.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I don't believe it. The idiot has broken two $1000 dollar each hand blown glass door panels and is suggesting we use our insurance to fix them. He "claims" he told us there was a chance of breaking them.


    What do I do? I'm being fucked over by this guy and there's nothing I can do.
    Take photos, keep a diary, don't pay until you have to, and keep an amount aside to cover disputes. He can then take you to the disputes tribuanl, you produce your evidence and all is good.

    Hopefully it's that simple.

    Plan/arrange things so the last payment is suitably delayed if you can. Have an "emergency" - I dunno, car breaks down or something" so the cash isn't available for the last payment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Bet he never 'told' you that you'd be paying for them either way??
    The components are not yours until the job is finished and completely paid for. Breakage by the installer is not your problem - it's his.
    They were ours to start with. He was removing them from our current door as you can't get them anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    Take photos, keep a diary, don't pay until you have to, and keep an amount aside to cover disputes. He can then take you to the disputes tribuanl, you produce your evidence and all is good.

    Hopefully it's that simple.

    Plan/arrange things so the last payment is suitably delayed if you can. Have an "emergency" - I dunno, car breaks down or something" so the cash isn't available for the last payment.
    He broke them at his workshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    He broke them at his workshop.
    hang on...

    to clarify, they are your windows (i.e. removed from your house and broken at his workshop) or they are new windows broken at his workshop?

    If they're yet to be installed (or paid for) title hasn't passed and they're his problem

    If they're yours he has an onus of responsibility under the Consumer Guarantees (??) Act to deliver value and workmanship (and care) to the levels expected of a specialist as he purports to be (by way of him advertising as a builder).

    If in doubt I'd call a halt to proceedings and get him to clarify who's paying for what and if you don't agree, get a different builder to finish the job.

    If he's a master builder then take it up with the Master Builder Association. I get the feeling he's not going to be your friend at the end of this whole thing, so if you're going to make an enemy, why not do it now, and get a decent job out of it?
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    I suggest we all stay away from water towers and schools for the next week or so...

    Cheer up Jim - I'll buy you lunch tomorrow - hows that...

    Then you can go ring your insurance company - you get on so well with them I know it will be a breeze....

    Paul N

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    pps - serious about lunch - my treat

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    hang on...

    to clarify, they are your windows (i.e. removed from your house and broken at his workshop) or they are new windows broken at his workshop?

    If they're yet to be installed (or paid for) title hasn't passed and they're his problem

    If they're yours he has an onus of responsibility under the Consumer Guarantees (??) Act to deliver value and workmanship (and care) to the levels expected of a specialist as he purports to be (by way of him advertising as a builder).

    If in doubt I'd call a halt to proceedings and get him to clarify who's paying for what and if you don't agree, get a different builder to finish the job.

    If he's a master builder then take it up with the Master Builder Association. I get the feeling he's not going to be your friend at the end of this whole thing, so if you're going to make an enemy, why not do it now, and get a decent job out of it?
    They're blown glass door panels out of our existing door. He removed the door to take to his workshop while the new door frame was installed for reinstallation into the new door that he has built.

    He's actually a Joiner so I'm not sure that the MBA covers that.

    Can't call a halt to things with no door installed, and it took 7 months to get someone to even agree to do the job. Who would I get to finish it? Santa Claus?

    Sorry, I'm really pissed off, and I feel like a hostage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    I suggest we all stay away from water towers and schools for the next week or so...

    Cheer up Jim - I'll buy you lunch tomorrow - hows that...

    Then you can go ring your insurance company - you get on so well with them I know it will be a breeze....

    Paul N

    ps - whats that sizzling sound?

    pps - serious about lunch - my treat
    It's OK, it's a different Insurance company.

    That would be lovely, and the first nice thing anyone has done for me since the last nice thing you did for me. Shut up Dover.
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    Sorry to hear about the shit this guy is putting you through Jim. I would keep a log of all the things he has done and if he isnt willing to sort out his own faults, you subtract it from the cost of building the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    Sorry, I'm really pissed off, and I feel like a hostage.
    And rightly so. Consumaer's Institute is your friend.

    Any lawyers online?

    Also, contact the Insurance Company, tell them what's going on and ask them if they';re ok to pay on that or should the builder do it? They won;t want to pay if they don;t have to, and they have lawyers (and know the law)... they're either going to wriggle out if ot (giving you grounds to hold this guy to account as of now, or they'll pay up.

    ?

    I don't know what else to say mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Shut up Dover.
    christ jim, I don't know whether to be flattered or offended!

    I wouldn't kick a man whilst he's down, unless it was dorkauckland or that singstar fella.

    Is the work this guy is doing based solely on a verbal contract? I'm pretty sure that the contractors that I deal with are liable for ANY damage that they cause whilst on site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover View Post
    or that singstar fella.
    Takes careful note of where this thread may be going...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover View Post
    christ jim, I don't know whether to be flattered or offended!

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    Choose to be flattered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Takes careful note of where this thread may be going...
    what the crap are you on about? the rest of my post was on topic and inferences to fictitious characters are not against the rules.

    who pissed on your chips?

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