Gunshop employee charged

**scumdog** · 14th November 2006, 12:25

Originally Posted by The_Dover

what that? International Pig Shooting Contest?

I'm gonna go in there and say i'm looking for a new cop killa, what have you got?

You been living under a rock or something?
Can't believe ya have never heard of IPSC

**The_Dover** · 14th November 2006, 12:26

Originally Posted by scumdog

You been living under a rock or something?
Can't believe ya have never heard of IPSC

Auckland's as good as being under a rock.

Have you heard of Dramfest? next feb in chch....

**scumdog** · 14th November 2006, 12:37

Originally Posted by The_Dover

Auckland's as good as being under a rock.

Have you heard of Dramfest? next feb in chch....

Oh, which of my pistols will I need for the Dramfest.?

And seeing as it's in Christchurch and involves whisky I'll probably bump into Dangerous, sound a bit too dodgy for me.

**The_Dover** · 14th November 2006, 12:39

depends how badly you want that scotch.

**jrandom** · 14th November 2006, 13:08

Originally Posted by Ixion

And ten effing chars to you too.

I am playing Devil's advocate to a certain extent.

Bring me your 'bearing arms in self-defence' petition and I may well sign it.

Of course, if there is, in fact, no petition, and all you're doing is dribbling ranty libertarian bollocks on the Interweb, I guess we'll be waiting a while for the revolution...

**McJim** · 14th November 2006, 13:16

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

If i admit i took a smelly shit in your bog does that mean you cant say its me because a group of my peers havent inspected said shit and verified it was me.

That's it D50 - you're barred from using the toilet at my house if you ever pop round!

Prevention is better than cure.

**The_Dover** · 14th November 2006, 13:19

i thought girls shit smelled of roses??

**Bend-it** · 14th November 2006, 13:28

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Not charging him would send a message that its acceptable to leave loaded semi auto pistols laying around your shop, which in my mind would not be in the public interest at all.

No it wouldn't. It says that it is okay for people to defend themselves AND to be ready to do so! It's quite a different thing having a pistol ready in a drawer out of knowledge, out of sight and out of reach of customers, but within reach for a situation like this occurring.

Originally Posted by spudchucka

People are losing sight of the fact that the charge he faces is not related to the actual shooting of the scum bag. It is simply a matter of a gun owner meeting his obligations under the Arms Act.

What the law in fact is saying then, like a point I brought up before, is that it is okay to defend yourself, but not to be READY to do so? I'd say the store-keeper met his higher obligation to society in keeping his guns out of the black market, than the dubious one to the "Arms Code".

It was only incidental that all this guy wanted to do was off himself, and not to shoot up some school! It could easily be the other scenario! Even if he just offed himself, the gun would then lay at the hands of a dead man, available to anyone walking by to pick up.

Basically, the VICTIM of crime should NOT be made to chose between (a) suffering at the hands of home invaders and (b) getting charged in court!

**The_Dover** · 14th November 2006, 13:32

wot he said, but with more cus words and less eloquence.

**ManDownUnder** · 14th November 2006, 13:35

Originally Posted by Bend-it

Basically, the VICTIM of crime should NOT be made to chose between (a) suffering at the hands of home invaders and (b) getting charged in court!

Bullseye - pun fully intended.

**McJim** · 14th November 2006, 13:35

Correct me if I'm wrong but I though he wanted the guns to off his family AND himself...not just himself.....allegedly........

**Bend-it** · 14th November 2006, 13:35

Does this work?

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

Can someone with some legal nouse do up the wording for it? Basically, people should be allowed to keep a firearm in a state that is semi-ready to use in self defence.

Semi-ready: Gun accessible but hidden, bullets in magazine and stored separately. Both out of sight.

Something like that?

**James Deuce** · 14th November 2006, 13:39

No Bend-it, they need to be locked away. Separately if you are going to have the mag loaded.

**Deano** · 14th November 2006, 13:40

As an analogy - if you were in a vehicle accident, the cause was not your fault, but your WOF had expired......is it reasonable for you to be charged with no WOF ?

Just throwing it out there.